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Vatican Denies Pope Told Italian Journalist That ‘All Divorced’ Will be Admitted to Communion
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 11/2/15 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 11/02/2015 6:11:43 AM PST by marshmallow

Article quoting Pope Francis by Eugenio Scalfari is 'in no way reliable', says Vatican spokesman

The Vatican has said that an interview which quotes the Pope as saying that "all divorced who ask will be admitted" to Communion is "in no way reliable" and "cannot be considered as the Pope's thinking".

In an article in La Repubblica, Eugenio Scalfari said the Pope made the comment during a phone interview.

According to a translation by traditionalist blog Rorate Caeli, Pope Francis said: "The diverse opinion of the bishops is part of this modernity of the Church and of the diverse societies in which she operated, but the goal is the same, and for that which regards the admission of the divorced to the Sacraments, [it] confirms that this principle has been accepted by the synod.

He added: "This is bottom line result, the de facto appraisals are entrusted to the confessors, but at the end of faster or slower paths, all the divorced who ask will be admitted."

However, Vatican spokesman Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi told the National Catholic Register : "As has already occurred in the past, Scalfari refers in quotes what the Pope supposedly told him, but many times it does not correspond to reality, since he does not record nor transcribe the exact words of the Pope, as he himself has said many times.

"So it is clear that what is being reported by him in the latest article about the divorced and remarried is in no way a reliable and cannot be considered as the Pope's thinking."

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicherald.co.uk ...


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A pattern with which we're now familiar; a "he said what??" moment, followed by denials.

Even if the Vatican is 100% correct, there's still an issue here since these reports cause enormous scandal. It's time for +Francis to stop chatting to his buddy Scalfari if garbled and confused accounts are the result.

1 posted on 11/02/2015 6:11:43 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

“The Vatican has said that an interview which quotes the Pope as saying that “all divorced who ask will be admitted” to Communion is “in no way reliable” and “cannot be considered as the Pope’s thinking”.”

Not exactly a denial...


2 posted on 11/02/2015 6:19:22 AM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: marshmallow

In other words.... it is EXACTLY what the Pope said.


3 posted on 11/02/2015 6:20:24 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: babygene

Two steps forward, one step back (but only one step)...?


4 posted on 11/02/2015 6:20:42 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: marshmallow

Divorced people are ALREADY allowed to obtain full communion. It is divorced and remarried who are not allowed communion. This article is dumb.


5 posted on 11/02/2015 6:24:19 AM PST by impimp
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To: marshmallow

Sounds like Scalfari needs to go back to journalism school. You can quote the gist of what somebody said but you can’t put it in quotation marks unless it’s exact. He needed to have Francis’ words on such an explosive topic exactly correct. I don’t know what Francis said but I’ve already seen too many false quotes attributed to Francis to believe Scalfari beyond a shadow of a doubt.


6 posted on 11/02/2015 6:27:02 AM PST by MDLION (J"Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: marshmallow

Uh oh.

That similar line of thinking didn’t work out too well for a liberal Pope not that long ago.

Lighten up, Frances.


7 posted on 11/02/2015 6:40:40 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: marshmallow

I saw that posted here earlier and expected this rectification “’”.


8 posted on 11/02/2015 6:48:56 AM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: marshmallow
If your marriage partner divorces you (via civil law) that is no reason to be denied communion. Finding yourself left without a marriage through no action of ones own is not a sin.

It is remarrying that puts you in a state of persistent unrepentant adultery that is sinful, and thus should be denied communion because of eating and drinking the communion unworthily, not having refused to practice a sinful alliance.

9 posted on 11/02/2015 7:08:38 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: marshmallow

It is time for Francis to STFU entirely even to the point of taking a vow of silence!

The fool can’t stop talking nonsense!


10 posted on 11/02/2015 7:54:51 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: marshmallow
He didn't say "all divorced", he said, "all divorced WHO ASK".

What happens will depend on what "ASK" means in his mind.

My prediction is that there will be some sort of penitential pathway under the bishops, which in Chicago will be easy and in Manila will not. More or less what the Eastern Orthodox do now.

The seamy and dishonest annulment system was not going to survive the Synod. The bishops have been granting virtually every annulment (for the divorced "who ask"), while knowing that the vast majority are procured under false pretenses.

They (the bishops) cannot even begin to imagine going back to 60 annulments/year from the present 60 000, and they hate the lies and the presence of a whole annulment procurement cottage industry.

So, they will take the way forward I describe.

11 posted on 11/02/2015 8:02:08 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: marshmallow

maybe he should have taken the name Pope Urkel.


12 posted on 11/02/2015 8:10:42 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: marshmallow

All you need is a good victim story about why your marriage failed, and you are good to go.


13 posted on 11/02/2015 8:29:58 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: impimp
Divorced people are ALREADY allowed to obtain full communion. It is divorced and remarried who are not allowed communion. This article is dumb.

THANK YOU for pointing out that tiny detail!

Who wrote: "The devil is in the details."??

14 posted on 11/02/2015 12:48:02 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow

If the Vatican says it isn’t so, it isn’t so....

Riiiight.

This still leaves the question: why does Francis continue to provide this “unreliable” journalist opportunities to interview him? Hmmmmm????


15 posted on 11/02/2015 2:54:31 PM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: marshmallow

Indeed. It seems like this pope wants to sow confusion.


16 posted on 11/02/2015 9:06:27 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: marshmallow

I agree with all that you said in your post.

However, I would like to add, that sadly where are all the FreeRepublic traditional Catholics who accused the Pope of heresy for speaking this, and saying it must be true?

I am so sick of people with so little faith themselves that they doubt Christ’s promises to His Church, condemning others for a lack of faith.

Francis has not proclaimed any heresies. And even if he promises to proclaim one tomorrow, we should have faith that something will prevent this.

They should read the story about Abraham and Isaac.

And no, I am not a Pope Francis fan. But I would rather follow him than despair.

Rant over.


17 posted on 11/02/2015 9:30:09 PM PST by LovedSinner
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