On the Holy Rosary

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[OrthodoxIndianCatholic]

Dear Friends in Jesus and Mary,

The Holy Rosary has a very special place in my "Spiritual Life".

Recitation of the Holy Rosary has helped me to cope with the ups and downs of life.

My Mother used to often tell me, that if you are troubled in any way ---- "Go to Jesus and Mary" by reciting the Holy Rosary. They will never let you down.

When I recite the Holy Rosary, I often think of the unique and special relationship between Jesus Christ and Mother Mary during their life on earth.

I have never stopped reciting the Holy Rosary when I learnt it at the age of 10.

I believe that the Holy Rosary is a Miraculous Prayer in itself and if said with faith and devotion it is a great help on a daily basis.

Here are two beautiful articles on the Holy Rosary.

1) The Seven Dolour Rosary.

http://www.ecatholic2000.com/cts/untitled-632.shtml#_Toc349936297

2) Suggestions on saying the Holy Rosary

http://www.ecatholic2000.com/cts/untitled-469.shtml#_Toc349936134

[OrthodoxIndianCatholic]

CATHOLIC CAUCUS

[pke]

Where ever you find Jesus you find Mary.

[BlessedBeGod]

Thank you!

[jacknhoo]

The Holy Rosary of the most Blessed Virgin Mary saved my life - I was the walking dead.

[Buttons12]

bkmk

[Biggirl]

Plus scripture based.

[daniel1212]

Plus scripture based.

As much as many Mormonic doctrines are.

Show us:

1.Even one example where anyone prayed to anyone in Heaven but the Lord, amid the approx. 200 prayers the Holy Spirit recorded for us in Scripture.

2. Any instruction on prayer to Heaven in which the addressee is anyone God, versus a created being in Heaven.

3. Even one example in which anyone in Heaven but God regularly hear and respond to prayers addressed to them, (elders and angels offering prayers in memorial as a preclude to judgment will not do), versus the Lord Jesus being the only unceasing Heavenly intercessor. (1 Tim. 2:5)

4. One example in which anyone from Heaven but God communicated with those on earth without both being personally present in the same realm.

5. One example in which earthly relations on earth have complete correspondence to those btwn created beings, in contrast to that not being the case.

6. Even one example of a common, necessary, fundamental doctrinal Christian practice for which the Holy Spirit does not provide even one single example, except by pagans in which it is condemned.

7. Even one example in which believers even sought the intercession of Mary on earth.

8. Even one example in which faithful believers kneel before other believers on earth in obeisance in sanctioned.

9. Why Catholics are exempt from the admonition not to think of mortals "above that which is written." (1Co. 4:6)

10. Even one example in which believers kneel before a statue and praise the entity it represented in the unseen world, beseeching such for Heavenly help, and making offerings to them, and giving glory and titles and ascribing attributes to such which are never given in Scripture to created beings (except to false gods), including having the uniquely Divine power and glory to hear and respond to virtually infinite numbers of prayers individually addressed to them

Which manner of adulation would constitute worship in Scripture, yet Catholics imagine that by playing word games then they can avoid crossing the invisible line between mere "veneration" and worship.

Moses, put down those rocks! I was only engaging in hyper dulia, not adoring her. Can't you tell the difference?

Caths should only do (and I should do more of) what Mary and every believer in Scripture did in praying to Heaven, which was to pray directly to the Lord, not saintly secretaries. But they must truly become born again for that.

Instead, Caths basically say,

As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes... (Jeremiah 44:16-17)

[daniel1212]

There is no CATHOLIC CAUCUS lapel on this thread, thus see post 8 above in reproof of it.

[jacknhoo]

See post 2.

[papertyger]

Please provide an example from Scripture (other than the uniquely heinous practice of child sacrifice) where a lack of Scriptural example constitutes a prohibition.

[phil1750]

ping for later.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Show us:

1.Even one example where anyone prayed to anyone in Heaven but the Lord, amid the approx. 200 prayers the Holy Spirit recorded for us in Scripture.

2. Any instruction on prayer to Heaven in which the addressee is anyone God, versus a created being in Heaven.

3. Even one example in which anyone in Heaven but God regularly hear and respond to prayers addressed to them, (elders and angels offering prayers in memorial as a preclude to judgment will not do), versus the Lord Jesus being the only unceasing Heavenly intercessor. (1 Tim. 2:5)

4. One example in which anyone from Heaven but God communicated with those on earth without both being personally present in the same realm.

5. One example in which earthly relations on earth have complete correspondence to those btwn created beings, in contrast to that not being the case.

6. Even one example of a common, necessary, fundamental doctrinal Christian practice for which the Holy Spirit does not provide even one single example, except by pagans in which it is condemned.

7. Even one example in which believers even sought the intercession of Mary on earth.

8. Even one example in which faithful believers kneel before other believers on earth in obeisance in sanctioned.

9. Why Catholics are exempt from the admonition not to think of mortals "above that which is written." (1Co. 4:6)

10. Even one example in which believers kneel before a statue and praise the entity it represented in the unseen world, beseeching such for Heavenly help, and making offerings to them, and giving glory and titles and ascribing attributes to such which are never given in Scripture to created beings (except to false gods), including having the uniquely Divine power and glory to hear and respond to virtually infinite numbers of prayers individually addressed to them

+1

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Where ever you find Jesus you find Mary.

Check the throne of God.

[jacknhoo]

Excerpt taken from:

L’Osservatore Romano
Weekly Edition in English
30 April 1997, page 11

........................

Mary becomes the Mother of all disciples

Jesus’ words, “Behold, your son”, effect what they express, making Mary the mother of John and of all the disciples destined to receive the gift of divine grace.

4. On the Cross Jesus did not proclaim Mary’s universal motherhood formally, but established a concrete maternal relationship between her and the beloved disciple. In the Lord’s choice we can see his concern that this motherhood should not be interpreted in a vague way, but should point to Mary’s intense, personal relationship with individual Christians.

May each one of us, precisely through the concrete reality of Mary’s universal motherhood, fully acknowledge her as our own Mother, and trustingly commend ourselves to her maternal love.

Source: https://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2BVM49.HTM

[papertyger]

Please provide one Scriptural example where different Churches, having disparate doctrines, are considered equally orthodox.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

"Please provide one Scriptural example where different Churches, having disparate doctrines, are considered equally orthodox."

Thank you for asking. You raise a very different question than the one this thread concerns. Why?

Your question puts forth a hidden assumption which must be revealed.

It presumes the existence of a "church."

Scripture records Christ as teaching His future gathering.

There is only one standard in Scripture of who are the saved - entrusting oneself to Christ alone and His payment on the cross.

Every gathering is made up of wheat and tares, according to Scripture. Christ will sort it out at the end of days.

Only those who have entrusted themselves to Him alone and His payment are to be saved.

Now, if you will be so kind to answer any of the more than 10 questions from Daniel1212, that would be back on track.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Jesus’ words, “Behold, your son”, effect what they express, making Mary the mother of John and of all the disciples destined to receive the gift of divine grace.

An assumption read back into Christ's words, which He does not say.

[CommerceComet]

Instead, Caths basically say, As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes... (Jeremiah 44:16-17)

Great verse - I'll have to keep that one at the ready.

[papertyger]

Thank you for asking. You raise a very different question than the one this thread concerns. Why?

To demonstrate the circularity of the reasoning behind the original list of questions.

Furthermore, it is the list of questions that that does not comport with this thread, not my answers.

Your question puts forth a hidden assumption which must be revealed. It presumes the existence of a "church."

There's nothing hidden, nor presumptive about it. The existence of a "Church" is documented throughout the New Testament.