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Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne: Muhammad "instrument of God's mercy" [Chrislam in Church]
Jihad Watch ^ | 7/10/2016 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/10/2016 2:32:27 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Jan_Sobieski

What, they’re fair weather faithful? Not much of a fight.


41 posted on 07/10/2016 5:32:05 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

The faithful believe salvation is by faith in Jesus Christ and His Word, not in consuming Jesus or just being a part of a church. - John 3:16


42 posted on 07/10/2016 5:45:06 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: faithhopecharity

And it’s not that hard to figure out that Islam is satanic. Christians know that the devil and the antichrist are the exact opposite of God. Our God became man, true God and true man, dwelt among us, and gave His life as the true Sacrificial Lamb so we may be forgiven our sins and by His grace live with him in Heaven. Our God IS love. Christ said to us greater love hath no man than to give his life for his friends.

The god of Islam is a god of hate. A god that rules with an iron fist. A god that calls on his followers to kill others in his name. The exact opposite of Christianity, the exact opposite of Christ = antichrist.

These wolves in sheep’s clothing in our Church are following their father as well. The father of lies, Lucifer.

And as a Catholic I’m going to stick my neck way out there and say that I disagree completely with the New Catechism that claims they are our brothers in faith and worship the same God. WE DO NOT.

I don’t know how that made it into the Catechism, but Jesus’s instructions, the Great Commission, was to teach the Gospel of Christ throughout the nation’s. He didn’t say, and if they don’t believe you, force them into it or kill them.

Sorry for the rant, but this causes righteous indignation in me. Wait, I’m not sorry.


43 posted on 07/10/2016 6:00:12 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Lil Flower

your rant no problemo.
understood.

Allah is Satan, anti=Christ or whatever, and I believe it is a blasphemy for Canon 841 to claim Mohammadans worship the same one True God as Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Orthodox Christians, and some more folks do. Every Biblical faith tradition does some things differently and we could spend all night arguing about who has what right.
BUT they all pray to the one real God. Islamics pray to Allah = Satan, who commands them to invade, terrorize, murder, bomb, and crucify Christians, Jews, and other innocent “infidels”

841 needs to be removed ASAP from the cathecism, imho, it is a terrible mistake and a clear abomination to the Lord


44 posted on 07/10/2016 6:32:07 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Lil Flower; faithhopecharity
841 needs to be removed ASAP from the cathecism, imho, it is a terrible mistake and a clear abomination to the Lord.

I don’t know how that made it into the Catechism...

All you need to do is look at the footnote: it comes directly from Vatican II (Lumen Gentium ("LG") and Nostra Aetate ("NA")). All of the non-Catholic teachings in JPII's catechism and in the post Vatican II church can be traced back to Vatican II.

45 posted on 07/11/2016 3:09:44 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Acts Of Apostles 11:26
And they conversed there in the church a whole year; and they taught a great multitude, so that at Antioch the disciples were first named Christians.

Acts Of Apostles 14:22
And when they had ordained to them priests in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, in whom they believed.

Acts Of Apostles 14:26
And when they were come, and had assembled the church, they related what great things God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith to the Gentiles.

Acts Of Apostles 20:28
Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

1 Corinthians 4:17
For this cause have I sent to you Timothy, who is my dearest son and faithful in the Lord; who will put you in mind of my ways, which are in Christ Jesus; as I teach everywhere in every church.

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

1 Corinthians 11:24
And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me.

(Jesus says, consume Him.)

1 Corinthians 11:27
Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.

(Since protestants cannot receive absolution, it is best they do not consume Jesus.)

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1 Corinthians 11:29
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.

(Since protestants cannot receive absolution, it is best they do not consume Jesus until they come home.)


46 posted on 07/11/2016 3:58:09 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

Eating his word daily, and recognizing his death for our sins, is entirely different from canibalism. The Apostle Paul understood this, why don’t you?


47 posted on 07/11/2016 8:29:26 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Christians and Jews who follow the Bible, believe in YHWH, the God of the Bible that is a triune God (father, son, and spirit.)

Jews who follow the Bible do not believe in a "triune 'gxd.'"

I've always admired Fundamentalist Protestantism's philo-Semitism (it's where I started). Unfortunately, I realize that this philo-Semitism is based on the belief that Judaism is merely a museum-exhibit relic of "pre-incarnation chrstianity." As I said, I've been there.

But sometimes Fundamentalist Protestants get carried away, as this statement that "Jews who follow the Bible believe in a 'triune gxd.'"

What's next? David HaMelekh sang Southern gospel music???

48 posted on 07/11/2016 8:35:42 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Ann Archy
You are ignorant if you think that Catholics don’t study the Bible

With higher critical commentary.

49 posted on 07/11/2016 8:38:35 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Most Christian churches know the Holy Communion to be a sacrament, why don’t you?


50 posted on 07/11/2016 10:08:09 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

A little background, fer ye: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamnesis_(Christianity)


51 posted on 07/11/2016 10:12:34 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

David believed in a Triune God, Father, Son, and Spirit. Read the Psalms (I.e. 2, 110, etc). Solomon in Proverbs 30, Isaiah in 9, 53, Moses in Deut 18. Jesus Christ is the Metatron, or Theophany that appeared to the Old Testament saints. Wake up before he returns and it is too late


52 posted on 07/11/2016 10:19:09 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
David HaMelech is Jewish. As such, he doesn't believe in any god created in the image of a man, or in a god that defecated on Eretz Yisrael. Jews believe man was created in God's image!

The Jewish God has zero "god children" therefore, on its face, those who believe he does, WORSHIP A DIFFERENT GOD!

Have a look at least at 2, 3, 5 below: CHRISTIANS WORSHIP A DIFFERENT GOD!

Different religions have different Gods, that's why they're different religions...

What Jews believe below for reference.

The following is a list of the Thirteen Principles, as penned by Maimonides,1 along with their biblical sources:

1. I believe with complete faith that the Creator, blessed be His name, is the Creator and Guide of all created beings, and that He alone has made, does make, and will make all things.

Source: "I am G‑d your G‑d"2—Exodus 20:2.

2. I believe with complete faith that the Creator, blessed be His name, is One and Alone; that there is no oneness in any way like Him; and that He alone is our G‑d—was, is and will be.

Source: "Hear O Israel, G‑d is our G‑d, G‑d is One"—Deuteronomy 6:4.

3. I believe with complete faith that the Creator, blessed be His name, is incorporeal; that He is free from all anthropomorphic properties; and that He has no likeness at all.

Source: "You did not see any image on the day that G‑d spoke to you at Horeb [Sinai]."—Deuteronomy 4:15.

4. I believe with complete faith that the Creator, blessed be His name, is the first and the last.

Source: "[The heavens] are the abode for the G‑d who precedes all"—Deuteronomy 33:27.3

5. I believe with complete faith that the Creator, blessed be His name, is the only one to whom it is proper to pray, and that it is inappropriate to pray to anyone else.

Source: "Lest you lift up your eyes to heaven, and see the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven . . . and be drawn away to prostrate yourselves before them and worship them"—Deuteronomy 4:19

6. I believe with complete faith that all the words of the prophets are true.

Source: "G‑d will raise up a prophet from among you… and you shall hearken to him"—Deuteronomy 18:15.

7. I believe with complete faith that the prophecy of Moses our teacher, peace unto him, was true; and that he was the father of the prophets, both of those who preceded and of those who followed him.

Source: "G‑d would speak to Moses face to face"—Exodus 33:11; "Mouth to mouth, I speak to him"—Numbers 12:8.4

8. I believe with complete faith that the whole Torah which we now possess was given to Moses, our teacher, peace unto him.

Source: "With this you shall know that G‑d sent me to do all these deeds, for I did not devise them myself"—Numbers 16:28.

9. I believe with complete faith that this Torah will not be changed, and that there will be no other Torah given by the Creator, blessed be His name.

Source: "You shall not add to it, not subtract from it"—Deuteronomy 13:1.5

10. I believe with complete faith that the Creator, blessed be His name, knows all the deeds and thoughts of human beings, as it is said, "It is He who fashions the hearts of them all, He who perceives all their actions."

Source (in addition to Psalms 33:15 quoted in the actual text): "Who is great in counsel and mighty in carrying it out, for Your eyes are open to all the ways of mankind"—Jeremiah 32:19; "G‑d saw that the evil of man on earth was very great"—Genesis 6:5.

11. I believe with complete faith that the Creator, blessed be His name, rewards those who observe His commandments, and punishes those who transgress His commandments.

Source: "And G‑d said to Moses: 'Whoever has sinned against Me, him I will erase from My book!'"—Exodus 32:33.6

12. I believe with complete faith in the coming of Moshiach, and although he may tarry, nevertheless, I wait every day for him to come.

Source: "G‑d will restore your fortunes, have mercy on you, and gather you"—Deuteronomy 30:3.

13. I believe with complete faith that there will be resurrection of the dead at the time when it will be the will of the Creator, blessed be His name and exalted be His remembrance forever and ever.

Source: "Many who sleep in the dust shall awaken, some to everlasting life, and some to ever lasting shame and reproach"—Daniel 12:2.


53 posted on 07/11/2016 7:40:21 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"Chrislam" is the merger of Ishmael and Esau (US & EU). It is fulfillment of Millennia-old End-of-Years Jewish prophesy.

An easy to-read article, over 7 years old, but even more pertinent today, explains. Excerpts below.

Jewish eschatology contains numerous references to an alliance between Esau (Rome, the West) and his father-in-law Ishmael (Islam) against the Jewish people toward the end of history.
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On the Seder night, God not only guards us, He looks forward and anticipates His final redemption of the Jewish people from the clutches of Esau and Ishmael.
There is no other explanation why the West openly invites blood thirsty savages, who tell the West they will kill them, into their homes and schools and even churches.

These are the last years.
Jewish prophesy is being fulfilled.

54 posted on 07/11/2016 8:09:56 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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