Posted on 11/15/2016 7:14:03 AM PST by Salvation
Monsignor Pope Ping!
Great article in my opinion.
While I understand that the Funeral Mass has restrictions as to what it can and cannot be, it can leave those attending with a feeling that it did not really allow for honoring the decedent in any personal way.
My grandmother’s best friend wrote in her will that she wanted to have Rambling Rose played at her funeral. The family got into a BIG fight with the Pastor over the fact that this was not “liturgical music”.
I was at a Catholic funeral where the deceased was a big Minnesota Vikings fan. A Vikings helmet sat atop the casket during Mass. I guess that was acceptable?
One problem I have is with these newer Catholic churches that are laid out “in the round”. Makes it very tricky for pallbearers to navigate their way up to the altar.
At my mother’s funeral Mass I ended up fighting with the parish because they wanted the family to speak and kept asking for musical suggestions. I wanted to suggest Boogie-Woogie Bugle Boy but kept quiet. I eventually got my own way; a quiet Mass, with one song in latin and no eulogies. Phew!
That’s what the wake is for.
I think you are quite correct, personal remembrances should be reserved for the wake.
I attended a Catholic funeral a couple years ago of a great aunt, and could not believe the grand kids talked longer than the priest. The funeral ended with a non-religious band playing a couple of her favorite tunes from years back.
Seriously, I was wondering if they were gonna pass out campaign and give the old girl a final toast.
I think today’s popular belief that a funeral is for the living, not the dead, has much to do with this.
“Further, Scripture doesn’t teach that people, even believers, die and go straight to Heaven.”
Arch pope veers off the path of Scripture, taking verses out of context to support false doctrine, while avoiding what God actually tells us.
He often does this in these posted articles.
The true believer is told by Scripture that to be absent from the body is to be present with The Lord.
Ignore arch-pope and put your complete trust in Christ alone for eternal life.
Thanks be to God for His indescribable Gift!!
I can top that, FRiend! I was at the funeral of a friend’s husband and the priest gave the eulogy including the fact that the deceased enjoyed dancing. The priest then began to dance around the coffin! I’m not making that up. I was next to a friend - a left-wing gay ex-Catholic and even HE grew purple with rage.
This article comes at a needed time. Going to a wake tomorrow.The person in was active in local GOP politics and supported Mr. Trump early on. Plus he was active in my home parish.
actually, it doesnt say that to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord, it actually says:
2 Corinthians 5:8
We are confident, I say, and willing **rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.**
if you are going to try and lecture the authors of the sacred text, at least get it right...
none of these say anything about there not being a period of purification before entering into heavenly paridise....which is what the lord himself says, you must be perfect, and pure....you cant be perfect and pure just by dying and having a desire to be with the lord....you musts be made perfect by the purifying fire of God....if you cant get that, then go on continuing to quote scripture all you want....the devil knows how to quote it as well...you are in good company.
Actually, the author of that passage is God, via the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit as He moved men to write.
The rooster is humble enough to crow without thinking he makes the sun rise. Go and do likewise.
actually, it doesnt say that to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord, it actually says:
I did not quote the passage. I declared its teaching.
you declared its teaching??? who are you compared to those who were there when it was written and experienced this???
and nowhere in your ‘declaring’ does it say that there is no purification by God of the deceased....and nowhere in your declaration does it prove that ‘to be absent from the body is to be with the lord’ cause it doesnt say that...you misquoted it....
Evangelicals invariably misconstrue, and often misquote, that passage. There is no hint of a logical implication in it; it merely asserts Paul’s hope for two things, without claiming that one implies the other.
exactly, its a ‘go to’ for our separated brethern to prop up their own version of the faith as opposed to what was actually taught by the apostles, Sacred Tradition and the Church.
That is usually done in a sharing at the wake or Rosary the night before.
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