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Catholic leaders: climate change on same level as abortion and death penalty
San Diego Tribune ^ | December 3, 2016 | Joshua Emerson Smith

Posted on 12/03/2016 4:51:48 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

As a little boy I can still remember my mother telling me the story of chicken little.

Never in my life did I dream that I would live to see that the story would come true.


21 posted on 12/03/2016 7:01:56 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Bellflower
Catholic doctrine does NOT put abortion and the death penalty in the same category. Abortion is murder; the death penalty, when there is moral certainty of the condemned man's criminal guilt, is not.

That's in the Catechism.

The rest of this stuff, climate change and so forth, is subjective opinion by highly-placed Catholics of the Francis "Church of What's Happenin' Now" type.

They can be safely ignored by Catholics. And by you, too.

22 posted on 12/03/2016 7:13:58 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
the equivalent of Martin Luther. A dedicated deconstructor of authentic Catholic doctrine.

Maybe God sent them both for a reason.

23 posted on 12/03/2016 7:16:22 PM PST by BipolarBob (Selling agent for Algores carbon credit scam. See me for the lowest prices guaranteed!)
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To: ebb tide
does anyone know if this pro gay pro adultery bishop uses air conditioning in his apartment? How about in his churches?

Does he drive a car or use public transportation/bicycle? Does he go to conferences by flying there?

Does he bathe every day? That wastes water. How about washing/changing his clothing daily? Wash every 2 to 3 days, and do it by hand...and go outside and hang it up to dry... washers and driers use electricity. Or maybe he can hike to the river and do it there.

Let him wash daily in a bucket of water using laundry soap like the poor do in the Philippines. Or maybe with no soap at all, since soap run off is polluting.

Does he only eat local food? No meat? No veggies out of season? No legumes or beans (farts produce methane, a greenhouse gas).And no rice (Rice paddies are a major cause of greenhouse gas due to the methane).

You know why the “greens” hate air conditioners? Because they are being bought up all over Asia as quickly as folks can afford them. It increases productivity for offices, but also for homes. Imagine: 50 years ago and we were lectured about the poor starving in Asia, and now they are buying air conditioners.

24 posted on 12/03/2016 7:44:02 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: BipolarBob

God has already sent the Vatican a Bishop Burke and a Cardinal Sarah.


25 posted on 12/03/2016 7:47:39 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: BipolarBob
Well, in a sense God sent everybody. You and me too.

But I am sure Good does not desire the deconstruction of Christian doctrine.

"God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints." 1 Cor 14:33

26 posted on 12/03/2016 7:55:32 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the Truth." - 1 Timothy 3:15)
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To: ebb tide

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“Climate change” is an abortion; is that what they mean?
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27 posted on 12/03/2016 7:58:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: John W
"Not any “Catholic Leaders” I follow."

Not any leaders who are actually Catholic, in fact. People who make this sort of statement are either guilty of the sin of heresy or the crime of heresy. That, or they were never Catholic in the first place.

Focusing on those who are still faithful and encouraging others to stand by the Church during times of trouble apparently isn't as much fun as helping to paint as negative an image of the Church as possible, though.

The Apostles vanished when Christ was seized and taken before Pilate so people keeping their heads down and abandoning the Church when it's attacked from both inside and outside is understandable, I guess.

The number of those who claim to be faithful Catholics but actively help to defame the Church is a surprise. Far more than 1 in 12, or so it seems.

JMHo

28 posted on 12/03/2016 8:11:34 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Steelfish

They are sixty years late.


29 posted on 12/03/2016 8:18:41 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: BipolarBob

Yeah. Luther set things on the right course. Just ask any pro-abortion lesbian Lutheran bishop.


30 posted on 12/03/2016 8:20:34 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: ebb tide

“The pope has nearly unrivaled potential to convince humanity to lean in on climate change.”

This Pope and the failure of the Magisterium (and Laity) to demand his resignation are the sole reason that I now view the RCC as having no authority at all. Seems like the attempt to push modernism has the opposite effect that this author thinks.


31 posted on 12/03/2016 8:27:25 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Catholic doctrine does NOT put abortion and the death penalty in the same category. Abortion is murder; the death penalty, when there is moral certainty of the condemned man’s criminal guilt, is not.
That’s in the Catechism.

The rest of this stuff, climate change and so forth, is subjective opinion by highly-placed Catholics of the Francis “Church of What’s Happenin’ Now” type.

They can be safely ignored by Catholics. And by you, too.

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Give them time...they’ll write it into future versions of the Catechism AND they’ll start pushing it in Homilies and future encyclicals. Don’t underestimate their tenacity.


32 posted on 12/03/2016 8:30:34 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: HChampagne

Me too - and I will go to my grave a “denier.”


33 posted on 12/04/2016 1:11:16 AM PST by JaguarXKE (n1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men d)
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To: Bishop_Malachi
Oh, I know they'll be pushing it. They're pushing it now.

And I'm pushing back

34 posted on 12/04/2016 8:01:21 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (I'm here to learn.)
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To: TheStickman
Never imagined progressives would take over our beloved Catholic Church like they have.

You won't like hearing this and will disagree, but it all started with evolution. Don't go claiming "the Catholic Church has never had a problem with evolution" and then complaining about how liberalism has taken over your church.

35 posted on 12/04/2016 8:12:34 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Viyricho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The only thing I will disagree with is that I haven’t “claimed” anything about the Catholic Church & evolution. In fact, I’ve never thought about the Catholic Church & evolution.

Hope you have a peace-filled day.


36 posted on 12/04/2016 8:21:04 AM PST by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by a unicorn.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Luther set things on the right course. Just ask any pro-abortion lesbian Lutheran bishop.

Indeed. You must be a scholar of Martin Luther to obtain arcane writings of his that support such views.

37 posted on 12/04/2016 9:42:53 AM PST by BipolarBob (Selling agent for Algores carbon credit scam. See me for the lowest prices guaranteed!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
But I am sure Good does not desire the deconstruction of Christian doctrine.

No, but He is chooses truth over lies. How many un-truths are in the Catholic theology, would you guess?

38 posted on 12/04/2016 9:46:50 AM PST by BipolarBob (Selling agent for Algores carbon credit scam. See me for the lowest prices guaranteed!)
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To: BipolarBob
How many errors in Catholic "theology"? If you mean the output of Catholic academic theologians, only God can count that high.

k\But if you speak of authentic Catholic doctrine, you can put the number of errors at zero.

39 posted on 12/04/2016 1:51:24 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the Truth." - 1 Timothy 3:15)
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To: editor-surveyor

I have no idea what they mean. This liberal mumbojumbo makes my head hurt.


40 posted on 12/04/2016 3:31:55 PM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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