Skip to comments.Pro-gay Vatican adviser slams Evangelical statement that affirms marriage is one man, one woman
Posted on 08/31/2017 3:06:35 PM PDT by ebb tide
A high-profile Vatican adviser responded to a recent Evangelical statement affirming marriage between one man and one woman with his own statement affirming "LGBT people."
Rev. James Martin, a Catholic priest, author, and adviser to the Vatican on communications, tweeted a seven-point list of pro-homosexual affirmations in response to the Evangelicals Nashville Statement that defended marriage between a man and woman.
Martins series of tweets were picked up by The Washington Post and published as a counter-list in an August 30 article titled Seven simple ways to respond to the Nashville Statement on sexuality.
In his list affirming LGBT people, Martin makes no distinction between sin and sinner, suggesting that same-sex attracted people, no matter what they do with their sexuality, are immune from Gods judgment and the judgments of others.
Some of Martins tweets include:
Martin did not clarify if the holiness of the LGBT people he knows comes from them living virtuous lives of chastity according to the Catholic Churchs teaching on sexual morality.
Martins counter-statement comes one month after the Vatican-reviewed magazine La Civiltà Cattolica published an article accusing Evangelicals and other Christians of forming an "ecumenism of hate" to exert religious influence in the political sphere. The article was criticized for its heavy-handed treatment of Christians seeking to be faithful to the Gospel.
The Nashville Statement on biblical sexual morality was released by the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW), an evangelical coalition, on August 29.
The statement, composed of 14 affirmations and denials, includes biblical-based teachings on homosexuality and transgenderism. The statement includes:
The Evangelical coalition said a statement of biblical sexual morality was needed because Western culture has embarked upon a massive revision of what it means to be a human being.
By and large the spirit of our age no longer discerns or delights in the beauty of Gods design for human life. Many deny that God created human beings for his glory, and that his good purposes for us include our personal and physical design as male and female, the group stated.
We are persuaded that faithfulness in our generation means declaring once again the true story of the world and of our place in it particularly as male and female, it added.
Our true identity, as male and female persons, is given by God. It is not only foolish, but hopeless, to try to make ourselves what God did not create us to be, the group added.
Earlier this month, Martin dismissed Catholic teaching on homosexuality, telling the pro-homosexual organization PFLAG (Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) that God made LGBTQ people who they are.
The Catholic Church teaches, however, that sexual attraction to someone of the same sex is objectively disordered since God created sexual attraction to be between a male and female for the sake of procreation.
Because of this, the Church holds that there is no such reality as a homosexual person, but only a person who struggles with what the Church calls the disorder of being attracted to someone of the same sex.
Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder, states a 1986 letter on the topic of homosexuality from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to the worlds bishops.
[S]pecial concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not, the letter adds.
Evangelical Biblical scholar Robert Gagnon criticized the Vatican this week for giving Martin a position of responsibility in the Catholic Church.
Martin is someone who has no business being in a position of responsibility in the Catholic Church because his raison d'etre appears to be the destruction of the historic Catholic (and general Christian) position on a male-female foundation for sexual ethics grounded in Scripture (including Jesus' teaching on sexual ethics), he posted on Facebook.
Having people like Martin in authority (whether in a Catholic context or a Protestant one) is like hiring as the head of a hospital surgical team an extreme "Christian Science" practitioner who does not believe in surgery; only in the case of Christian faith the malpractice is worse since it has a moral component with eternal ramifications, he added.
Can’t criticize them gays. What, and lose all their contributions?
No way the Catholics would alienate em.
I wish the pope was catholic
I don’t think it’s about contributions, Joe.
It’s about serving their master, if you get my meaning.
The sin that cries to heaven for vengeance. Some of us haven’t forgotten.
I agree that they should not be harassed, persecuted, prosecuted or hated in any way....
but lets just acknowledge that its not normal...
besides, its totally unhealthy in every way possible.....
it was not too long ago that the Catholic Church stated that sex was meant ONLY for making babies....the "mutual satisfaction" part didn't come until after Vat. 2.
The modern democrat pharisees would ask Jesus: will we still be gay and married in heaven?
Discussing the gender of the angels amongst catholics while the islamics are at the gate of Rome...
I’m pretty confident that was not part of the teaching of the Apostles.
The Church’s problem is that even stalwarts like Pope John Paul II failed to root the evil out of the clerical ranks. He was meek when the task demanded ruthlessness. The heretics went quiet and bided their time, only fully emerging after the Jesuits forced out Pope Benedict XVI. Now it’s as though the gates of hell have opened beneath the Vatican and every evil creature is crawling out of the depths of darkness.
Me too. The only people he seems to like are Muslims - who of course are out there stoning gays to death - so I’d say he’s seriously conflicted. But what he is mostly is anti-Catholic and anti-US.
WOA There, Don't you go and paint ALL Catholics with this Broad Brush of self righteous indignation!!!
The biggest reform they need is to allow priests to marry. I’ve heard stories of homo abuse in the church for 60 years. Not new and not going away.
What a time to be alive. Half way through my life, God willing it get to live the second half, and not only did the idiot republicans desert me, now my church has as well. So tired of reading how insane the Catholic Church as become
Please read up on the graces given in the Sacrament of Holy Orders.
If it is “homo abuse” then marrying won’t help much, will it?
How about this: anyone with SSA is out of the seminary, period.
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