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Remains Found Near Yekaterinburg Belong to Nicholas II, Family - Russian Investigative Committee
Interfax ^ | 7/16/18

Posted on 07/17/2018 3:59:18 AM PDT by marshmallow

Moscow, July 16, Interfax - A new comprehensive evaluation has confirmed that the remains thought to be those of Nicholas II and his family, who were shot and killed in Yekaterinburg 100 years ago, are indeed their remains, Russian Investigative Committee official Svetlana Petrenko said.

"Comprehensive commission molecular and genetic tests have now confirmed that the remains belong to former Emperor Nicholas II, his family members and people close to them," Petrenko told Interfax on Monday.

The molecular and genetic tests have shown that seven of the 11 found remains are remains of members of one family, mother father, four daughters and a son, she said.

"The genetic profiling of the bone remains and samples taken from relatives of the Romanov family who now live, both on the father's and the mother's lines, confirms that the remains belong to Nicholas II and his family members," Petrenko said.

The results of molecular and genetic tests conducted to determine biological relations between Emperor Alexander II (who was exhumed in the Sts Peter and Paul Cathedral in St. Petersburg) and the man identified as former Emperor Nicholas II "indicate that they are father and son."

"A final procedural decision will be made after two repeat commission medical (anthropological) and historical-archive forensic tests are completed in the criminal case," Petrenko said.

Prominent scientists are involved in the forensic evaluations, they are studying and systematizing some 2,000 documental original sources, including those that were found in foreign archives and museums in 2017-2018 and have not been studied by anyone, she said.

Russian Emperor Nicholas II and his family were shot and killed in Yekaterinburg in the early hours of July 17, 2018 in accordance with a decision made by the Bolshevik-led executive committee of the Urals region's council of workers, peasant and soldier deputies.

In July 1991, the remains of nine people were found in a mass grave discovered on the Staraya Koptyakovskaya Road near Yekaterinburg. The investigators believe they belonged to members of the tsar's family: Nicholas II, his wife, their daughters, as well as their doctor and servants.

The remains of the imperial family were buried at a sepulcher of the Peter and Paul Cathedral in St. Petersburg in 1998 after forensic tests.

The remains of another two people were found during archeological excavations conducted south of the first grave on July 29, 2007. Numerous expert evaluations indicate that the remains belong to the children of Nicholas II, Alexey and Maria.

A governmental working group suggested that the remains of Tsesarevich Alexey and Grand Duchess Maria be interred at the Romanov burial vault at the Petropavlovskaya Fortress on October 18, 2015. The group allowed for the possibility of further inquiries to dispel the Church's doubts about the authenticity of the 'Yekaterinburg remains'. The Investigative Committee later reopened the investigation into the killing of members of the royal family. This made it possible to begin additional tests to confirm the authenticity of Alexey and Maria's remains kept at the State Archive.

On September 23, 2015, samples from the presumed skeletons of Nicholas II and his wife, as well as from the clothing of the last emperor's grand-father, Alexander II, which he was wearing at the time of his murder, were taken in the presence of Church representatives at the Petropavlovskaya Fortress. The new DNA test confirmed the authenticity of the skulls of Nicholas II and the Empress Alexandra Fyodorovna. In November 2015, the tomb of Alexander III was opened.

Further work involved comparison of the genetic materials of Nicholas II and his wife to the genetic samples of Alexey and Maria, the establishment of the genetic type of Alexander III, the location of hemophilia in the remains of Empress Alexandra Fyodorovna, her daughters and Tsesarevich Alexey. It was also planned to complete the studies of the blood from the clothes of Alexander II and work on the servants and associates of Nicholas II who were executed together with the imperial family.

The Russian Orthodox Church set up a special commission to study the results of the new inquiry. In the event of a favorable conclusion of the inquiry into the authenticity of the remains, the issue of recognizing them as holy relics will be raised with the episcopate.

Patriarch Kirill said the investigation into the killing of the family of Nicholas II will be completed when the truth is determined. "I was assured at the highest level that there will be no haste and linking the conclusion of the investigation to one date or another. The investigation will last as long as it is necessary to find out the truth," Patriarch Kirill said at the Bishops' Council on February 2, 2016.


TOPICS: History; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; russia; yekaterinburg
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1 posted on 07/17/2018 3:59:18 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: SunkenCiv

PING


2 posted on 07/17/2018 4:17:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: marshmallow

Today is the Emperor Nicholas II’s birthday


3 posted on 07/17/2018 4:25:04 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Wonder if the Windsors remember...


4 posted on 07/17/2018 4:26:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: marshmallow

A century after the Russian, the last of, royals, died as martyrs.


5 posted on 07/17/2018 4:32:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

it’s time for the Orthodox Church to accept the facts and allow the Romanovs to rest in peace.


6 posted on 07/17/2018 4:37:28 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: marshmallow

I’ve read many books over the years on the Romanovs. Very interesting.

Upon his father’s death, Nicholas was devastated because he not only was wholly incapable of taking over the thrown, he KNEW it, and wanted no part of it. However, he also knew he had the obligation, and that won out.

He was a terrible emperor, but was a devoted husband to Alexandra and a wonderful father to Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia, and Alexei.

I have no qualms about him being deposed, because he was inept. But he and his family should have been exiled, likely to England but probably to Canada, as the Romanovs were related to the British royals; they should not have been murdered.


7 posted on 07/17/2018 4:41:08 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

I’ve read many books over the years on the Romanovs. Very interesting.

Upon his father’s death, Nicholas was devastated because he not only was wholly incapable of taking over the thone, he KNEW it, and wanted no part of it. However, he also knew he had the obligation, and that won out.

He was a terrible emperor, but was a devoted husband to Alexandra and a wonderful father to Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia, and Alexei.

I have no qualms about him being deposed, because he was inept. But he and his family should have been exiled, likely to England but probably to Canada, as the Romanovs were related to the British royals; they should not have been murdered.


8 posted on 07/17/2018 4:45:44 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mewzilla; marshmallow
The Devastating True Story of the Romanov Family's Execution

Excerpted

At first, during the spring of 1917, the ex-imperial family was allowed to live in relative comfort at a favorite residence, the Alexander Palace at Tsarskoe Selo, not far from Petrograd. Nicholas's cousin, King George V of England, offered him sanctuary, but then changed his mind and withdrew the offer. It was not the finest moment for the House of Windsor, but it is unlikely that it made any difference. The window of opportunity was short; demands for the ex-tsar to stand trial were growing.

Alexander Kerensky, first justice minister and then prime minister of the provisional government, moved the royals to the governor's mansion in Tobolsk, in distant Siberia, to keep them safe. Their stay there was bearable but depressing. Boredom turned to danger when Kerensky was overthrown by Lenin and the Bolsheviks in October 1917. Lenin famously said that "revolutions are meaningless without firing squads," and he was soon considering, along with lieutenant Yakov Sverdlov, whether to place Nicholas on public trial—to be followed by his execution—or just kill the entire family.

The Bolsheviks faced a desperate civil war against the Whites, counterrevolutionary armies backed by Western powers. Lenin responded with unbridled terror. He decided to move the family from Tobolsk closer to Moscow, to which he had relocated the Russian capital. A trusted Bolshevik factotum was dispatched to bring the Romanovs westward, and in April 1918 they endured a terrifying trip by train and carriage.

The teenage Alexei suffered an attack of bleeding and had to be left behind; he came to Ekaterinburg three weeks later with three of his sisters. The girls, meanwhile, were sexually molested on the train. But eventually the family was reunited in the gloomy, walled mansion of a merchant named Ipatiev in the center of the city, whose leaders were the most fanatical of Bolsheviks.

The mansion was ominously renamed the House of Special Purpose and converted into a prison fortress with painted-over windows, fortified walls and machine gun nests. The Romanovs received limited rations and were watched by hostile young guards. Yet the family adapted. Nicholas read books aloud in the evening and tried to exercise. The eldest daughter, Olga, became depressed, but the playful and spirited younger girls, especially the beautiful Maria and the mischievous Anastasia, began to interact with the guards. Maria began an illicit romance with one of them, and the guards discussed helping the girls escape. When this was uncovered by Bolshevik boss Filipp Goloshchekin, the guards were changed, regulations were tightened. All of this made Lenin even more anxious.

By the beginning of July 1918 it was clear that Ekaterinburg was going to fall to the Whites. Goloshchekin rushed to Moscow to get Lenin's approval, and it is certain that he got it, though Lenin was clever enough not to put the order on paper: The killing was planned under the new commandant of the House of Special Purpose, Yakov Yurovsky, who decided to recruit a squad to murder the royals all together in one session and then burn the bodies and bury them in the woods nearby. Just about every detail of the plan was ill conceived and would be grotesquely bungled in practice.

Early on that July morning, the bleary-eyed Romanovs and their loyal retainers stood in the cellar as the heavily armed murder squad filed into the room. Yurovsky suddenly read out a death sentence. Then the men used their weapons. Each was meant to fire at a different family member, but many of them secretly wished to avoid shooting the girls, so they all aimed at the loathed Nicholas and Alexandra, killing them almost instantly.

The firing was wild; the killers managed to wound one another as the room filled with swirling dust and smoke and screams. When the first volley was done, most of the family was still alive, wounded, crying and terrified, their suffering made worse by the fact that they were in effect wearing bulletproof vests.

The Romanovs were famed for their collection of jewelry, and they had left Petrograd with a large cache of diamonds hidden their baggage. During the last months they had sewn the diamonds into specially made underwear in case they needed to fund an escape. On the night of the execution the children had pulled on this secretly bejeweled underwear, which was reinforced with the hardest material in existence. Tragically, ironically, the bullets bounced off these garments. Finally the murderers waded into the gruesome scene of wounded, bleeding children (one of the killers compared it to a slippery ice rink awash with blood and brains) and stabbed them manically with bayonets or shot them in the head.

The mayhem lasted 20 agonizing minutes. When the bodies were being carried out, two of the girls turned out to still be alive, spluttering and coughing before being stabbed into silence. This was surely the origin ofthe legend that Anastasia, the youngest daughter, had survived, a story that inspired so many impostors to impersonate the murdered grand duchess.

Now that the deed was done, drunken assassins and Bolshevik thugs argued about who was to move the bodies and where. They mocked the deceased royals, pillaged their treasures, and then failed to conceal or bury them. Eventually the bodies were piled into a truck, which soon broke down. Out in the woods, where the Romanovs were stripped naked and their clothing burned, it turned out that the mineshafts that had been selected to receive the bodies were too shallow. In a panic Yurovsky improvised a new plan, leaving the bodies and rushing into Ekaterinburg for supplies.

He spent three days and three nights, sleeplessly driving back and forth to the woods, collecting sulfuric acid and gasoline to destroy the bodies, which he finally decided to bury in separate places to confuse anyone who might find them. He was determined to obey his orders that "no one must ever know what had happened" to the Romanov family. He pummeled the bodies with rifle butts, doused them with sulfuric acid, and burned them with gasoline. Finally, he buried what was left in two graves.

Yurovsky and his killers later wrote detailed, boastful, and confused accounts for the Cheka, a precursor to the KGB. The reports were sequestered in the archives and never publicized, but during the 1970s renewed interest in the murder site led Yuri Andropov, the chairman of the KGB (and future leader of the USSR), to recommend that the House of Special Purpose be bulldozed.

9 posted on 07/17/2018 4:51:14 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Tennessee Nana. The band 1994 had a song "Anastasia" on their first album, now that I've got it in mind, I think I'll put that on.

10 posted on 07/17/2018 4:57:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: ought-six
they should not have been murdered.

Time and again, Communist/Leftists/Maoists, etc. have shown that's not how it works when they take the reigns of power. It's not hyperbole to say that Americans can expect the same thing should our Constitutional Republic be overthrown by the likes.

11 posted on 07/17/2018 5:18:29 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (To close with and destroy....)
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To: marshmallow

They’re (still) dead Jim.


12 posted on 07/17/2018 5:33:38 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: marshmallow

“were shot and killed in Yekaterinburg in the early hours of July 17, 2018”
Wow! Word travels fast.


13 posted on 07/17/2018 5:38:54 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: KingLudd

They should’ve let them die of old age instead.


14 posted on 07/17/2018 6:07:08 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Turbo Pig

Big difference is that many Americans are ARMED.


15 posted on 07/17/2018 6:08:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: marshmallow
Russian Emperor Nicholas II and his family were shot and killed in Yekaterinburg in the early hours of July 17, 2018

Shouldn't this be in breaking news?

16 posted on 07/17/2018 6:57:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 trillion dollars.)
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To: Biggirl
Big difference is that many Americans are ARMED.

Eventually, that may not be the case. You've got a large portion of an entire generation that is advocating and wants their 2ndA rights taken away, becasue guns are scary and bad. We've also got a government that is willing to let people die in order to shape the narrative that guns are evil; think Fast and Furious. That narrative could take things to a point that the powers that be feel that the time is right to legislate draconian "gun control" measures, which will ultimately lead to registration and confiscation.

Stay vigilant

17 posted on 07/17/2018 7:01:33 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (To close with and destroy....)
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To: ought-six

I’ve read all of the Robert Massie books. Always looking for more suggestions if you have any.

I tried to watch the movie “Nicholas and Alexandra” on Amazon Prime last night but it completely crashed every time I tried to log in.


18 posted on 07/17/2018 7:19:22 AM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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To: Turbo Pig

I have a bit of advice. Keep a close eye on the USSC and the upcoming confirmation hearings of next Justice Brett Kavenaugh. I see it as a done deal. He is considered right-leaning.


19 posted on 07/17/2018 7:35:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Turbo Pig

Please post #19. Thank-you!


20 posted on 07/17/2018 7:44:03 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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