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Pope’s change to Catechism is not just a prudential judgment, but a rejection of dogma
LifeSite News ^ | August 3, 2018 | Peter Kwasniewski

Posted on 08/03/2018 11:20:26 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

Not when you post multiple threads a day, all on the same topic of hating the pope.


61 posted on 08/03/2018 3:58:51 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom
Not when you post multiple threads a day, all on the same topic of hating the pope.

And what does that matter to a person who has left the Catholic Church?

In none of my threads have I expressed hatred for popes.

62 posted on 08/03/2018 4:01:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
You posting 11 threads yesterday, 8 on the day before, on top of the 4 you posted today, is helping to reduce traffic?

That's 23 threads in *THREE* days and today is not even over with.

On what planet is that *reducing* RF traffic?

63 posted on 08/03/2018 4:03:14 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Hieronymus

Could be right.


64 posted on 08/03/2018 4:04:27 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: ebb tide

Don’t misrepresent what I said. I didn’t say *popes* plural, but *pope* singular.

And it’s more than the threads. It’s your posts about him in the comments section that reveal your thoughts about him.


65 posted on 08/03/2018 4:04:52 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

What about it?

You respond to most of them.


66 posted on 08/03/2018 4:06:02 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

No, I don’t because I can’t.

You caucus most of them.

Do try to not misrepresent others posting history.

Anyone can check and see that the accusation is not accurate.


67 posted on 08/03/2018 4:07:36 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom
And it’s more than the threads. It’s your posts about him in the comments section that reveal your thoughts about him.

Well by reading all my comments, you seem to enjoy the traffic, rather than driving around it.

68 posted on 08/03/2018 4:08:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Bookshelf

In effect, not much.


69 posted on 08/03/2018 4:13:43 PM PDT by arthurus (1 2 3 2 i z 3k><|++)
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To: metmom
No, I don’t because I can’t.

Yet you read my comments on them and then complain about the number of them on non-caucused threads.

Honestly, is Jorge Bergoglio your hero? It seems only protestants complain about criticism of him.

70 posted on 08/03/2018 4:14:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I’ve had a creep odd thought from this :

What If Jesus had only got “Life Imprisonment” ?

Not actually directly relevant to the posting, but ...


71 posted on 08/03/2018 4:20:46 PM PDT by elbook
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To: so_real
The Catholic Church's greatest political fear is a third reformation. And yet, with connivances like this, they act contrary to that fear. Perhaps it is time to #WalkAway.

It seems to be a pattern in Catholicism.

The Great Schism happened in 1054 AD when the EO split off from the Roman rite over doctrinal issues, with both sides claiming they were the original, one, true church founded by Jesus and the other being in schism.

And then, 500 years later, in the mid 1500's was the Protestant Reformation with Luther addressing the corruption of the Catholic church especially in the area of indulgences. His call was to get back to genuine Catholicism, and for that they ex-communicated him.

And here we are 500 and some years later, with another upheaval within Catholicism over doctrine and corrupt leadership with a group calling for a return to traditional Catholicism.

History is repeating itself.

72 posted on 08/03/2018 4:44:17 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

I see you’re contributing to that “traffic” that you so much complain about again.


73 posted on 08/03/2018 4:48:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Would you care to address the comment or just criticize, which is also increasing traffic?


74 posted on 08/03/2018 4:53:01 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Hieronymus
Oh yeah.

Just one more point:

The Pope's sweeping new doctrine, in practice, would make it morally obligatory for every nation to equip itself with modern maximum security prisons to provide for the type of hyperaggressive offenders who would otherwise face the death penalty: narco-criminals, serial murderers, terrorists, and other highly dangerous felons.

For the average maximum security prison, the cost is $62,730 (U.S. dollars) per year for EACH prisoner.

It can go higher. In Rhode Island alone, violent criminals cost the state up to $200,000 for EACH prisoner in a recent fiscal year, according to cost-per-offender data released by the Department of Corrections (DOC).

These annual costs include salary and benefits for department staff, operating expenses, medical costs, probation and parole costs and home confinement expenses along with overhead and capital costs (which I think means the amortized costs of building and equipping the prison to begin with.)

The department spent $190 million in one year for the 90 prisoners at the High Security Center in Cranston, RI.

OK. One of the countries that executed convicted criminals last year, was South Sudan, where 66% of the population is living on less than $2 a day. Last year they had a total government budget of $259.6 million, 98% of which comes from state-controlled oil revenues.

If this country built a SuperMax prison to accommodate just 130 prisoners, it would consume their entire annual government budget.

I don't think I need to draw a picture of what this would mean to the already suffering, destitute people of South Sudan who must deal with both poverty and hypercrime.

This is problem with simply waving one's papal hand and stipulating that the death penalty is no longer needed to secure society from violent aggressors in the light of the "fact" that modern penal systems are now available.

75 posted on 08/03/2018 5:03:05 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (O Lord, save Thy people, and bless Thine inheritance.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for developing this point. It is worthy of an article, and pointing out the first world hypocrisy of those who are against the death penalty. Building special facilities and a large staff of specialists to make life imprisonment a possibility is a first world luxury.

Clerics are sometimes too isolated from incarnation realities and limitations.

I think that Italy should build walls around Vatican City and bus in all the migrants that they don’t want until the Pope cries uncle.


76 posted on 08/03/2018 5:21:28 PM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus
Vatican City already has a 40 foot wall.

But... how can that be? Pontifex doesn't seem to see the contradiction.

77 posted on 08/03/2018 5:42:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Autocorrect is my worst enema.)
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To: Hieronymus; Mrs. Don-o
Clerics are sometimes too isolated from incarnation realities and limitations.

If you intended to say incarceration vs. incarnation, I recommend that with recent revelations, many of them should not be isolated from them.

78 posted on 08/03/2018 5:42:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I meant incarnational, but spell check seems to have caught me. I agree with your take as well.


79 posted on 08/03/2018 6:26:11 PM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus

Understood. :)


80 posted on 08/03/2018 6:52:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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