Posted on 02/07/2019 11:23:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Brown left out the most important reasons a Christian can vote for Donald Trump without betraying his faith:
Namely, that because the narrative that Donald Trump is a man of low character is pure horseshit - an invention of the Leftist MSM to tarnish any conservative judge or politician, however pure, who dares to oppose their Marxist agenda.
The same MSM, by the way, who could never once admit that the Rapist-in-Chief, William Jefferson Clinton, was a man of low character - and who could never bring themselves to describe their darling JFK in those terms - even though he was a serial adulterer.
I’m glad that the author of this piece was able to “justify” voting for Donald Trump, “in spite of all his flaws”. Every vote counts.
But he is an awfully poor judge of character, and sadly uninformed regarding President Trump’s positions and his record of achievement on the many issues that impact people of faith.
RE: But he is an awfully poor judge of character, and sadly uninformed regarding President Trump’s positions and his record of achievement on the many issues that impact people of faith.
I don’t see the author as uninformed on the many issues. In fact, he ARTICULATES these issues in all 4 of his points in the article.
Here they are again:
1) Trump is the BETTER leader than Hillary
2) Trump is SYMPATHETIC and SUPPORTIVE of the Evangelical cause and has CONSISTENTLY shown it in his policies and in the Evangelical leaders he appoints and chooses ( See Mike Pence ).
3) He has chosen the right judges and justices to the courts who will uphold the constitution, which is INHERENTLY based on Judaeo-Christian values.
4) He has at every turn, fought the good fight against a media hostile to Christian values and morality.
The article in fact shows Brown’s good grasp of the issues And the President’s positions and policies.
No, sweet, you did not answer my initial question.
My initial comment is found up-thread at #27. My question was this:
“ WHO DEBATES A MORON?”
This is a dull exercise and, in CST, a waste of my time and yours. Thanks, for playing. May you get of the house soon.
RE: but Mr. Brown’s dislike of President Trump is more focused on his current refusal (and approach) to back-down from his enemies, something, as a Christian, I whole-heartedly support.
Where in the article does Brown show his dislike of Trump?
He does not like Trump’s past affairs and his past trysts and the words he said in the Hollywood Access Tape. That’s all. That does not mean that he dislikes him now.
RE: My initial comment is found up-thread at #27. My question was this:
“ WHO DEBATES A MORON?”
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OK, before I answer the question, I want to question your assumption first — who is the moron and why?
RE: 1. Big If.
It is not a secret that Trump PAID Stormy Daniels to keep quiet during the campaign. She agreed to do so and broke her promise after the elections were over.
This leaves the question open -— why, if he did not have an affair with her, did he have to pay her?
You also asked me another question, which I believe I answered. It is this : Not to butt in, but where do you stand on the value of this wordy chat piece?
I said I agree with his reasoning.
And you have not answered my question -— what part of his article do you find questionable. I’m waiting....
Ninth commandment violation.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.".
Repeating something that you do not know to be true is bearing false witness.
Perhaps you should go pray about this sin you are allowing to consume you.
Not altogether because I make no excuses for voting for Trump other than he is the man for the job.
Because she was making an accusation to get some money out of him because she felt she had him “over a barrel” since he was running for President?
We’ve seen lots of people over the years make false, very public accusations that proved to be outright lies.
So you have to ask yourself, who are you going to believe, President Trump, or the Stripper?
The gist of the piece can be summed up by his concluding statement, as follows:
“And I believe if we excuse his ungodly conduct or feel the need to become his defenders in chief, we do compromise our moral authority.”
What ungodly conduct?
If Brown wants to help shed light on the truth for his readers, he should be showing them how to see through the Left’s lies and smears - how to recognize how the Left targets those on the Right for character assassination, especially people of faith and politicians who advocate for them.
Instead, he talks about the President’s “ungodly conduct” - thereby paying lip service to a Leftist smear campaign. Why aren’t we ever talking about the ungodly conduct of Democrat presidents? Hint: because these narratives are inventions of the Left - they aren’t designed to destroy Democrats - they are designed to destroy Republicans, and this guy is helping by his off-hand reference to Trump’s supposed ungodly conduct.
RE: Because she was making an accusation to get some money out of him because she felt she had him “over a barrel” since he was running for President?
The issue is this — are the accusations true?
If not, why bother paying?
The fact that he paid her and asked her to keep quiet about it does not give me much confidence.
RE: What ungodly conduct?
1) Stormy Daniels
2) Karen McDougal
3) The Access Hollywood Tapes
4) Trump’s first marriage imploded on the covers of all of New York’s tabloids after he brazenly took his mistress, Marla Maples, on a family vacation in Aspen along with his wife, Ivana, and attempted to hide her away until she approached Ivana and said, “I’m Marla and I love your husband. Do you?”
Just 4 of them.
If these were not ungodly conduct, I don’t know what is.
And I disagree, these are not concoctions of the left. THEY WERE THERE LONG BEFORE HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT.
I will grant you this, they were in the distant past, decades ago. But smears? They were known conduct long before he ran for President.
Michael Brown does not excuse what he did, he acknowledges their existence but explains in his column why evangelicals CAN STILL support him even as they do not condone what he did in the past.
RE: he should be showing them how to see through the Left’s lies and smears
Yes, Many of the left’s smears are fake and false. Especially today.
But please, let us not pretend that some of Trump’s past sins never existed.
RE: I make no excuses for voting for Trump other than he is the man for the job.
Then you agree with the author of this column because this is essentially what he is saying.
RE: “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”.
Repeating something that you do not know to be true is bearing false witness.
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You are assuming that the 9th commandment has been violated.
Again, if the accusations are false, why pay Stormy Daniels to make her keep quiet? Just say that she is lying.
The guy is as close to a saint as any President in American History.
ML/NJ
RE: WHAT FLAWS ???
Read the rest of the exchange in this thread. We can start with his affair with Marla Maples while married to Ivana, the Access Hollywood tapes and so on.
But as far as the big picture is concerned, they are irrelevant and unlike Clinton, he hasn’t disgrace the office of President in his tenure.
I am an evangelical, I suppose, and I voted for Trump and have never ever felt the need to justify or explain the vote.
Anyone who does is buying into the Alinsky tactics of the Left.
All I will ever say that if the vote doesn’t measure up to what some degenerate thinks I should strive for, he can go to hell.
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