Posted on 04/05/2019 5:12:29 PM PDT by marshmallow
“You just roll out plastic drop cloths on the floor...”
Good Fellas when Joe Pesci walked into the bar to become a made man and the entire place is sheeted in tarps and duct tape.
It’s not a deterrent, but punishment for murder.
they can do it in the cell. Traditionally they allow the chaplain to of with the prisoner. This department tried to block a buddhist. I’ve seen this kind of bureaucrat-authoritarian attire thousands of times in my career in 15 states. In case of executions I think it’s inhumane. Typical reaction, punish everyone.
Well, I guess we should just go back to stoning people for various types of adultery, blasphemy, etc. It’s ‘biblical’.
It seems that the concept of ‘justice’ changes with times and places. We exact ‘justice’ according to laws, which are always evolving and changing as we and our awareness change.
Justice does not change. It’s an eternal concept.
If adultery is evil 4000 years ago it’s evil today etc.
Stoning was part of the civil law for Israel. The state has the power
Of the sword, not the church. The state can have death penalties for any immoral act they wish to.
The church’s death penalty is excommunication. Which adultery will get you. It is not the unforgivable sin however and restoration is possible.
Yes I do believe the moral law, as to actions in the public realm, should be upheld. It is a blessing for believers and unbelievers as well.
Many of the moral laws are upheld anyway. Stealing. Murder of some but it’s ok for now to kill unborn and frail elderly. The necessity of adequate witness before conviction. False witness for some. Clinton and other high government officials currently getting a pass.
So it’s not strange to see the moral law of God in the written laws of men.
You claim a ‘biblical’ definition of Justice but say that capital punishment is a civil matter; and yet you have argued in favor of the death penalty as ‘justice’ according to your biblical concept of it. That all seems kind of circular to me.
The fact is that people, communities, change their laws all the time as they grow, learn and change themselves. I believe that eventually we will have no death penalty. There are already about 20 states that have outlawed it, and several with moratoria. Minds have been changing about this - and they are not all so-called ‘liberal’ minds.
Biblical justice as dictated in scripture is sometimes for the STATE and sometimes for the CHURCH and has bearing in both realms.
There are some punishments only the state can mete out. There are some pumishments onlynthe church can mete out.
The moral principles remain the same.
God’s law can not be improved upon. Yes cultures can and do reject it in various ways. To their detriment. We are not more enlightened than He is and we can’t improve on His standard.
A Priest can deliver Last Rites in the prisoner’s cell. No need to be present in the actual execution room.
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