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Biblical Edom unearthed: Not a myth, a historical reality
Christian Post ^ | 10/07/2019 | By John Stonestreet and Roberto Rivera

Posted on 10/08/2019 7:56:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/08/2019 7:56:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3780496/posts


2 posted on 10/08/2019 8:08:42 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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"Esau, you might remember, sold his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of red stew. "

Can anyone point me to this in The Bible?

There are a lot of unusual HISTORICAL items like this in The Bible that I never heard of before. That seems pretty specific.

3 posted on 10/08/2019 8:09:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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GENESIS 25:29-34 ESV

29 Once when Jacob was cooking stew, Esau came in from the field, and he was exhausted. 30 And Esau said to Jacob, “Let me eat some of that red stew, for I am exhausted!” (Therefore his name was called Edom.[a])

31 Jacob said, “Sell me your birthright now.”

32 Esau said, “I am about to die; of what use is a birthright to me?”

33 Jacob said, “Swear to me now.” So he swore to him and sold his birthright to Jacob.

34 Then Jacob gave Esau bread and lentil stew, and he ate and drank and rose and went his way. Thus Esau despised his birthright.


4 posted on 10/08/2019 8:11:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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wow- thank you

Not very nice of his brother to refuse him food when he is starving, unless he turns over everything he owns.


5 posted on 10/08/2019 8:15:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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Gen 25:30


6 posted on 10/08/2019 8:16:21 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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Jacob and his mother were two sneaky people. It was her idea to deceive Isaac, enabling Jacob to receive the full blessing from his father.


7 posted on 10/08/2019 8:19:00 AM PDT by madison10
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The Hebrew word Edom means “red”, and is derived from the name of its founder, Esau, the elder son of the Hebrew patriarch Isaac, because he was born “red all over”. As a young adult, he sold his birthright to his brother Jacob for “red pottage”. The Tanakh describes the Edomites as descendants of Esau.

SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom


8 posted on 10/08/2019 8:19:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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RE: It was her idea to deceive Isaac, enabling Jacob to receive the full blessing from his father.

Can someone explain to me why there can be only ONE blessing from Isaac?

Is this blessing like a limited resource that you can’t give any more the moment it is given out to one?

Why can’t Isaac BLESS BOTH of them?


9 posted on 10/08/2019 8:21:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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So you might say that Jacob won the first chili cook-off!


10 posted on 10/08/2019 8:25:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Isaac definitely did bless both of them.

Note that this whole story is in the context of Malachi 1:2-3, and the whole book of Obadiah.


11 posted on 10/08/2019 8:27:34 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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Jacob makes J.R. Ewing look like Billy Graham !!!


12 posted on 10/08/2019 8:45:11 AM PDT by RightWingNut
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I believe it was due to Rebekah’s prophecy while pregnant with the twins. She was given the message the older would serve the younger son. Isaac didn’t receive that message so didn’t know before hand. Look at Genesis 25:23.


13 posted on 10/08/2019 8:56:06 AM PDT by Engedi (ui)
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“Not very nice of his brother to refuse him food when he is starving, unless he turns over everything he owns.”

You’ll find that most people in the Bible do a lot of bad things.


14 posted on 10/08/2019 9:08:24 AM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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the historical account of Essau has far reaching long terms effects- I beleive it is why we have such tensions in the middle east today

” In dealing with the root of the Arab conflict, we are concerned with two key individuals in Genesis, Ishmael and Esau. ...

http://www.focusonjerusalem.com/TheRootsoftheIsraeli-ArabConflict.htm


15 posted on 10/08/2019 9:09:16 AM PDT by Bob434
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http://www.jewishanswers.org/ask-the-rabbi-category/jewish-history/post-biblical-history/?p=2483


16 posted on 10/08/2019 9:25:39 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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10 of Josephs brothers wanted to kill him.

Jews have many recorded examples of extreme virtues. Both good and bad.

17 posted on 10/08/2019 9:37:11 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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Not very nice of his brother to refuse him food when he is starving ...

Esau had been out for the day on a hunt. Why would he be actually starving, when presumably he ate in the morning, not to mention the previous day?

I think Esau was just being a drama queen.

Jacob is still a creep, of course.

18 posted on 10/08/2019 9:45:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Self-esteem has completely obliterated self-respect as a desideratum." ~Theodore Dalrymple)
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Isaac blessed both sons, but the blessing usually reserved for the eldest was special and apparently coveted by Isaac.

In the passage where Israel (Jacob) was blessing Joseph’s sons, Manasseh & Ephraim. Jacob placed his hand for the blessing on that of the younger son, Joseph did not like that, as he did not think as it should be, and moved his father’s hand. Jacob basically said, “I know what I am doing” and moved his hand for the eldest blessing to the younger son.

There are blessings to go around, but that of the eldest is different.


19 posted on 10/08/2019 10:21:09 AM PDT by madison10
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RE: Isaac blessed both sons, but the blessing usually reserved for the eldest was special and apparently coveted by Isaac.

Does Isaac’s blessing convey anything PREDICTIVE?

If so, are these “predictions” predicated on the character and attitudes of either son?


20 posted on 10/08/2019 10:38:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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