[hinckley buzzard]

Religious orders have a history of highly unChristian political intrigue. Back in the Renaissance, the Florentine Franciscans and the Dominicans had a vicious rivalry in which they called for each other to be tried by fire in the public square.

I have never trusted Jesuits. When the Spanish were conquering Mexico and the American southwest, they were accompanied by Jesuits who enslaved the Indians and coerced their conversions. Their methods were so harsh that word got back to Rome, and they were yanked from the mission, ultimately replaced by Franciscans.

[Biggirl]

And once the Franciscans came unto the scene,the missions in CA for example began to take off.