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Catholic Traditionalism Booming in Latin America
Church Militant ^ | December 25, 2019 | Jules Gomes

Posted on 12/27/2019 4:31:57 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You should be ashamed of yourself to think Catholics are not saved. How can you judge our hearts? We don’t exactly get our marching orders from Rome but we worship at the local parishes. WE have a Savior who is the same one you have We worship Him differently than you obviously. Would you attack a Methodist or a Presbyterian the way you ignorantly attack Catholics WHO ARE the Original Christians? If you could research your ancestors back to the 1st century youd be shocked to discover they started out as Catholics.
I can’t get through to your hardened heart so I’m signing out.


141 posted on 12/29/2019 7:13:33 PM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: Captain Walker
You can take Acts 15 to justify anything.

Please reread the entire chapter I posted. The context is legalists telling new Gentile believers they had to follow the Law of Moses.

A council was called.

The Holy Spirit led the Apostles to write a specific letter telling them they would do well if they just did these things...

Greetings. 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

IF the Holy Spirit was going to keep Gentiles under Law, this was the time to clearly state it. They did not. They wiped it away and listed 4 things.

There's all the authority any Christian needs. A passage in Scripture, the Holy Spirit, and the Apostles.

If you wish to ignore or deny it, no problem.

But in the end, Rome is not needed to tell Christians what day to worship.

142 posted on 12/29/2019 7:16:49 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Citizen Soldier
You are confused then because we Catholics have a Gospel reading from MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, or JOHN

Again, not what I stated. You seem to be having some kind of trouble distinguishing between the 4 Gospels in Scripture, and a teaching of the Gospel of Grace.

143 posted on 12/29/2019 7:18:14 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Citizen Soldier
You should be ashamed of yourself to think Catholics are not saved.

Some are. Many - maybe most, are not. They've been taught a false religion and have never heard the Gospel of Grace.

How can you judge our hearts?

I leave that to God.

We don’t exactly get our marching orders from Rome but we worship at the local parishes.

Yet, every Catholic Church must teach exactly what Rome tells it.

WE have a Savior who is the same one you have

Having Him and being saved are two different things FRiend. "Lord, Lord, didn't we..."

Would you attack a Methodist or a Presbyterian the way you ignorantly attack Catholics WHO ARE the Original Christians?

1. I am not attacking a single catholic. I am pointing out the teaching as false.

2. Catholics were not the original Christians. This is just something you've been taught. And even if they were, that proves nothing. Read the first 3 chapters of Revelation and you will see what the fallacy of that argument.

If you could research your ancestors back to the 1st century youd be shocked to discover they started out as Catholics.

As was I, until I came to saving faith in Christ.

I can’t get through to your hardened heart so I’m signing out.

It appears your heart is hard against Christ, preferring catholicsm.

Best

144 posted on 12/29/2019 7:25:08 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
There's no prohibition there against theft, rape, or murder either.

By your logic, these are all allowed; it's the blood of strangled animals that's problematic.

(I can't keep up with this. I just...can't.)

145 posted on 12/29/2019 7:57:27 PM PST by Captain Walker
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To: Captain Walker

“ There’s no prohibition there against theft, rape, or murder either

You do know there is more in the NT than Acts 15?


146 posted on 12/29/2019 8:00:49 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
We've almost completed the circle. (Stay with me and we'll walk the rest of it together.)

Show me the specific line in the New Testament (and not the vague catch-all line that allows everything but idols and meat from strangled animals) that shifts the day of rest from Saturday to Sunday.

147 posted on 12/29/2019 8:08:48 PM PST by Captain Walker
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To: Citizen Soldier

I am judging Catholicism, not Catholics. I am judging that religion with reason, tempered with experience, and measured by Scripture.

And I don’t know which “Christian religion” you are referring to.


148 posted on 12/29/2019 8:16:56 PM PST by Ken Regis
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To: Captain Walker

From pentecost, when believers were first baptized into the body of Christ - which was a Sunday - onward - the NT records believers gathering on the first day of the week.

Yes, a Apostles went on the sabbath to witness to gatherings of Jews, as commanded of them.

That Sunday gathering for Christian worship continues onward in the early church record for 300 years.

You’ve made up an argument about the authority of Rome being necessary to change to Sunday worship that is simply false.

It isn’t credible.

There was no decree issued in the NT. The Holy Spirit came on Pentecost.

No Rome needed.


149 posted on 12/29/2019 8:22:49 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Citizen Soldier

It was St. James Holy Roman Catholic Church in Falls Church, VA.

The Liturgy of the Word was part of the Mass then and all the way back to when I first attended Mass, regularly and on Holy Days of Obligation in the 1950s. It comes right before the Liturgy of the Eucharist - where the transubstantiation is alleged to occur.

Or, maybe you don’t believe that a “Priest” gave the Gospel on TV?! I know. Right?

Be specific. WHAT don’t you believe? I know what you obviously don’t believe.


150 posted on 12/29/2019 8:29:32 PM PST by Ken Regis
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Yes, a Apostles went on the sabbath to witness to gatherings of Jews, as commanded of them.

That is all, my friend; have a good night.

151 posted on 12/29/2019 8:29:36 PM PST by Captain Walker
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To: Citizen Soldier

LOL

You keep saying that and you don’t realize how STUPID it is.

Here’s an exercise for you: You’ll need a Bible. Search for the word “gospel” in the New Testament (That’s the Second of the two major parts). See how the word is used. It’s “ euaggelion” if you’re reading it in Greek.

Then get back to us.


152 posted on 12/29/2019 8:40:30 PM PST by Ken Regis
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Citizen Soldier

Post #143: And THERE IT IS. That hurdle that can NEVER be cleared: Four Gospels v. The Gospel that SAVES. That wraps up everything anyone would ever need to know about the RCC v. Christianity. The GOSPEL (s) they believe and accept are the 4 gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. The GOSPEL that SAVES is not found there. It was revealed to Paul and he was commissioned to reveal it to us, in this dispensation of the GRACE of GOD.

No wonder we seem miles apart from the RCC...WE ARE.


153 posted on 12/29/2019 9:03:37 PM PST by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: smvoice

Amen bro


154 posted on 12/29/2019 9:12:49 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Citizen Soldier

Myth. And that’s your sign.


155 posted on 12/29/2019 9:34:47 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Citizen Soldier

Have gotten you little pachmama statue yet to rest beside your mary one.


156 posted on 12/29/2019 10:00:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Citizen Soldier

I attended mass for over 19 years FRiend.
If I’m misinformed, it’s because of your Priests who presided over the ceremonies and spoke.

Thank God, I found the Gospel and actually put forth the effort to read Holy Scripture on my own.

John 1:12


157 posted on 12/30/2019 2:47:08 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
...which means you learned and know NOTHING about what Catholics actually believe and teach.

HMMMmmm…

Then logically; YOU would have had to graduate from "a Protestant seminary" to be able to make this assertion for sure.


So; just how DO you 'know' that he learned&knows NOTHING from the source you've claimed?

158 posted on 01/02/2020 3:58:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I’ve told you before.....buzz off!

Tell me again; as I like a firm, authoritative voice in a person.

159 posted on 01/02/2020 3:59:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Who recognizes any authority of Rome, other than romans??

I can tell you that damned few FR Catholics recognize the 'authority' of their current pope.

Would that be the same thing??

160 posted on 01/02/2020 4:01:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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