Posted on 08/26/2020 5:46:20 PM PDT by ebb tide
No. Even in pre-Conciliar versions, Conscience was the most important teaching in the Catechism: it is that through which God speaks to you.
Source please. Name the catechism and the edition.
If "conscience was the most important teaching", why did God give Moses the Ten Commandments? One of which is, "Thou shallt not kill".
Every human has a conscience, including Jeffery Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, etc. Was God "speaking" to them, Mr. Chips?
Conception to natural death is quite clear.
Utterly shameful.
One has a duty to inform one’s conscience by the teachings of the Faith.
Impressed, possibly. Pleased, not!
27 Q. Which is the noblest creature God has placed on earth?
A. The noblest creature God has placed on earth is man.
28 Q. What is man?
A. Man is a rational creature composed of soul and body.
29 Q. What is the soul?
A. The soul is the noblest part of man, because it is a spiritual substance, endowed with intelligence and will, capable of knowing God and of possessing Him for all eternity.
Having claiming to have taught Latin for 23 years, I would think you know the root word of "conscience" is scio which means "I know".
You do not have the right to choose to kill your baby.
How hard is this to understand?
Of course I know the Latin. I just don’t get your point.
Looks here like you're defending contraception in certain cases, Mr. Chips. Do you deny it?
I am not on trial. What I believe about each of these is irrelevant. I am referring to the beliefs of others. But you continue to miss the point.
The conscience clause in the middle of the Catechism does allow for SOME disagreement with church teaching, if done after much effort and labor and discussion and reflection and prayer. One might, for example, disagree with the Church on contraception or divorce or capital punishment under such parameters. There is more gray area in the Catechism than one might think.
Why have a catechism, the Ten Commandments, or even a Catholic Church when there are gray areas that one is free to disagree with?
Actually, you were referring to what I believe. But, no matter. As for your current, quite un-Christian insult, I am simply quoting a very conservative priest with whom I had many conversations about the catechism at my conversion. Life is not all black and white. Good day.
So you were quoting a questionable priest, not the catechism, like you claimed to have done.
2370: In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil: Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.
Ok, you admitted that's what you believe and that includes, "One might, for example, disagree with the Church on contraception..."
There's a word for "catholics" that disagree with the Church and it also applies to Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi.
Looks like we here have a lad who could profit from some time in a Trappist monastery.
Yes, it does; or at least find an orthodox Catholic confessor for him.
You continue to misconstrue my words, and miss my point entirely. This conversation is a an end. Good day, sir.
I’m quoting your words verbatim.
There is no gray area on contraception in any catholic catechism which you falsely claimed.
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