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Pope Francis Mandates Ad Orientem Worship
New Liturgical Movement ^ | Friday, May 20, 2022 | Gregory DiPippo

Posted on 05/25/2022 10:44:21 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey

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A decision that relates only to the Syro-Malabar Church (Eastern Rite Catholic), but, why not push for the same change to the Novus Ordo mass?
1 posted on 05/25/2022 10:44:21 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

What’s “Ad Orientum Worship”?

Couldn’t determine from the excerpt.


2 posted on 05/25/2022 10:47:23 AM PDT by DannyTN
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The priest, when saying mass, facing “toward the East”, or Versus Deum.

As opposed to versus populum, or facing the people.


3 posted on 05/25/2022 10:51:41 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Priest leading the faithful toward Our Lord, as it should be.

4 posted on 05/25/2022 10:53:49 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: DannyTN

Basically the priest facing toward the crucifix, the same direction the lay parishioners are facing.


5 posted on 05/25/2022 10:53:54 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: NorthMountain

It is beautiful.

Particularly during the consecration when the priest leans forward with his elbows on the altar, a thoroughly male posture.


6 posted on 05/25/2022 10:55:46 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: DannyTN

Facing in solidarity with the congregation.


7 posted on 05/25/2022 10:56:08 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: one guy in new jersey

The priest isn’t management, he’s a union steward. He is one of us and should face God like the rest of us.


8 posted on 05/25/2022 10:56:53 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: one guy in new jersey

Seems like a minor thing.

I like the symbolism of the priest facing the cross. But it would be easier for parishioners to understand him if they can see his face. Especially hard of hearing.

Maybe a compromise? Have the priest face the cross but have a video camera on the priests face blown up for the parishioners to see.


9 posted on 05/25/2022 10:58:06 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To face toward the east is to anticipate the direction from which Christ Jesus will come, when he “comes again” (the second coming).


10 posted on 05/25/2022 10:58:14 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: DannyTN

when I was growing up there was a mike there


11 posted on 05/25/2022 11:00:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: DannyTN

Get a copy of the 1962 version of the Missal of the Roman Rite and you’ll be abke to follow right along with an SSPX priest saying mass Ad Orientem.


12 posted on 05/25/2022 11:01:03 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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So are all Roman Catholic churches physically oriented towards he east? Another freeper said it was facing the crucifix. But “Orientem” does sound like maybe it means east. But could mean Oriented.


13 posted on 05/25/2022 11:01:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Even without the use of electronic devices, I have never had trouble hearing and understanding the Priest when he is facing the Altar and Tabernacle. Most (first-world) parishes today, even with the Priest facing the congregation (and turning his back on the Tabernacle ...) use electronic amplification ... In practice, hearing the Priest isn’t a problem.


14 posted on 05/25/2022 11:02:15 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: DannyTN

Most older churches actually are geographically facing East, newer are a mixed bag. Regardless, the liturgical symbolism of facing the Altar, the Crucifix, and most importantly the Tabernacle remains regardless of geography.


15 posted on 05/25/2022 11:03:58 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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I always thought of Tabernacle as the church building. But a quick google tells me in Catholic churches it’s a container where the communion (bread, wine) is kept.


16 posted on 05/25/2022 11:07:38 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Yes, orientem=east.

Liturgical east is the broader term, used by necessity if the physical church is constructed such that the parishioners in the pews in the “nave” or central part of the church end up facing north, south or west, as obviously happens (but is not preferred).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nave


17 posted on 05/25/2022 11:10:11 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: PTBAA

Indeed he should.


18 posted on 05/25/2022 11:12:18 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ebb tide

Ping.

Hear about this, ET?


19 posted on 05/25/2022 11:13:54 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: DannyTN
But it would be easier for parishioners to understand him if they can see his face. Especially hard of hearing.

The Priest turns toward the people when they need to hear him during the Mass.

20 posted on 05/25/2022 11:16:12 AM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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