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The differences between traditional baptism and the new rite matter: here’s why
LifeSite News ^ | January 17, 2023 | Fr. Alexander Wiseman, FSSPX

Posted on 01/18/2023 5:14:27 PM PST by ebb tide

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1 posted on 01/18/2023 5:14:27 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 01/18/2023 5:15:38 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Infant baptism is not in the New Testament.
Believer’s baptism is in the New Testament.


3 posted on 01/18/2023 5:21:27 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Honest Nigerian

Sola scriptura is not in the New Testament.


4 posted on 01/18/2023 5:22:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

It is, as you’ve been shown countless times.


5 posted on 01/18/2023 5:24:36 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Honest Nigerian

Hence Anabaptists like the Amish, Hutterites and Mennonites broke away.


6 posted on 01/18/2023 5:24:46 PM PST by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: ebb tide

“Traditional” (Biblical) baptism is by immersion. (The root word is translated “to immerse”.)

No infant baptism in Scripture.


7 posted on 01/18/2023 5:28:17 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: ebb tide

What is the best resource for perusing the old baptismal rite in its entirety? By that I mean hatd copy in book form.

Also, I assume the old rite has a history of its own. If there is a book or article treating of that history I would like to know of it.

The movement from outside the sanctuary and in to the font is a salutary practice. Likewise the understanding that the infant child is by nature an enemy and alien to the Faith.

We use Dr. Luther’s rite in my parish, which begins with words of exorcism. We believe, teach, and confess that infants who are baptized in our midst are encountering the Apostolic ministry as confessed by St. Peter.

I am not familiar with the history of Lutheran baptismal practices, but I am too much aware of how, over the past century, they have swallowed general Protestant theology.


8 posted on 01/18/2023 5:31:54 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (/s)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Show me as many lies as you like. You’re good at that.

I’m not falling for them.


9 posted on 01/18/2023 5:34:11 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: MayflowerMadam

No sola scriptura in scripture. Only in Luther’s demented head.


10 posted on 01/18/2023 5:40:49 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Honest Nigerian

Since you understand not even the very first thing about Catholicism, why not just shut up and run your silly head in a Protestant thread?

Or you can just continue blurting - and looking like an insufferable ass.


11 posted on 01/18/2023 5:41:47 PM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Honest Nigerian

Protestants aren’t in the Bible.

In fact “everything that must be practiced and believed must be in the Bible” isn’t in the Bible.

If you knew your Bible you would know where it says that not all of his teachings and actions are written down, and to hold fast to the traditions you have been taught. Whole households we’re baptized and circumcision, which happened to all Jewish infants, was replaced by baptism.

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/not-by-scripture-alone


12 posted on 01/18/2023 5:43:05 PM PST by Texas_Guy
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To: ebb tide

is nothing sacred???


13 posted on 01/18/2023 5:50:49 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: miele man

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14 posted on 01/18/2023 5:52:32 PM PST by miele man
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To: ebb tide

Don’t know a lot about Luther; I’m not a Protestant.


15 posted on 01/18/2023 5:52:49 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I think you mean “the opposite of sola scriptura”.


16 posted on 01/18/2023 6:14:50 PM PST by Romulus
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As a Protestant, I just am bewildered by the enormous, and I mean HUGE, complexity of the Roman Catholic sect; it is nothing like the simple faith of believers in the New Testament. How can this be justified? I recognize that Catholics do not believe in the limitations of Scripture, but surely, somewhere, Catholics must give pause to the mounds of legalism and sacerdotalism that just dwarfs the faith I read about in Acts, Paul’s epistles, and the remainder of the New Testament.


17 posted on 01/18/2023 6:14:54 PM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: ebb tide

Ebb, you still wearing a scapular??

—> Show me as many lies

By the way, you misspelled “Scripture.”


18 posted on 01/18/2023 6:35:15 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Romulus

Nope


19 posted on 01/18/2023 6:35:31 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
All these years and I still can't grasp why Catholicism remains ‘stuck’ in all it's complex rituals and traditions rather than understanding the scripture teachings and examplesJesus taught.
20 posted on 01/18/2023 6:37:30 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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