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Church of England's Archbishop of York says gay sex is OK if in ‘committed, stable, faithful relationships'
Christian Post ^ | 01/29/2023 | Anugrah Kumar

Posted on 01/29/2023 9:05:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: frnewsjunkie

ROFL!!!

Geezer doesn’t like his deserved spanking.

Pathetic ...


61 posted on 01/30/2023 1:24:22 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

I am a past senior age grandma. I was not rude and way past your word, spanking. You younger kids have not been taught Do Not Be Rudem
It seems to come natural from kids with parents who don’t teach it.
My patience with youth who delight in sass.. Is past. I raised 5 who do not act like you.


62 posted on 01/30/2023 1:40:39 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: frnewsjunkie

ROFL!!!

Now I know what dear, sweet Greta will be like in about 90 years.


63 posted on 01/30/2023 1:54:34 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

You are a disrespectful damn idiot. I Pity anyone who has to be around your kind of trash.
And I don’t have to.
Thank the Lord.


64 posted on 01/30/2023 2:02:33 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: frnewsjunkie
LOL!!! This sanctimonious silliness from the author of Post #8.

BTW, when did you become aware that the "Archbishop" of York is a PROTESTANT official of a PROTESTANT church? Someone who was aware of that fact would not have posted #8 on this thread.

65 posted on 01/30/2023 2:06:22 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind

” “committed, stable, faithful relationships”

Hmmm, that is less than one percent of gay male hookups.


66 posted on 01/30/2023 2:08:08 PM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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To: frnewsjunkie
Sorry to hear about your son.
That is a lot of anguish there for sure-
but also an incredible amount of peace you had to have in that extraordinary divine encounter-
that very few, a very few, ever get to experience.
67 posted on 01/30/2023 2:43:43 PM PST by MurphsLaw ( "If you do boast, remember it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you.")
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Yes. I’d like to tell you what led up to it sometime.
The Lord was in it with us.. It was a mother’s dread not to lose one.. I could not have come out sane, but with God.


68 posted on 01/30/2023 3:35:41 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: frnewsjunkie
It sounds like it is something that should be written down and published.
You should share it, if you haven't already.
It coukd make a difference in unforseen ways.


69 posted on 01/30/2023 7:14:44 PM PST by MurphsLaw ( "If you do boast, remember it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you.")
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To: Tacticalman
So, we should just shut up about sin, let everything and anything be legal?

No. Per "Render unto Caesar...", there is temporal law, which is fallible, and there is God's Law, which is not. God's Law is ineffable.

Jesus Himself made that point abundantly clear with his multiple parables and rebukes - off the top of my head the one about working on the Sabbath (Matthew 12), the punishment and the Good Samaritan is another (Luke 10), the woman caught in adultery (John 8) is a third. Each time, Jesus was presented with a textbook case for interpreting the Old Covenant strictly. Each time, He had a lesson to impart.

Now consider this: in three different Gospels, the exact same story is recollected in respect of what the New Covenant is all about. From Matthew 22:

... and one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. "Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?" He said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the greatest and first commandment. Love God above all else. And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

It does not contradict Leviticus 19:18 or Deuteronomy 6:4-5 in any way, shape or form. It actually reinforces both. But in Luke, it precedes the parable of the Good Samaritan. Which ends,

“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?” 37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.” Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

What's often overlooked in Bible studies around this parable is the sheer shock value of this exchange.

Jesus picked two of the most virtuous archetypes of his age (a Levite and a Priest) to represent two presumably virtuous, fine upstanding men who knew the law, and yet passed by a man clearly in need. For the third traveller, He chose a borderline heretic outcast from a caste that despised Jews (a Samaritan). It's impossible to overstate how difficult it would've been to His congregation to openly accept the fact that in this story, the Samaritan acted better than the Priest.

It's not just in the Gospels where this concept is reinforced. The first and second greatest commandments are confirmed also in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. They are, as Jesus said explicitly the bedrock on which all other commandments sit AND they are the foundation of the New Covenant.They were not, however, the foundation of the rest of the First Covenant. Its foundation was the release of the Israelites from slavery and oppression. God expected them to behave a whole lot better than the people they'd been freed from.

If you obey the two most imortant commandments reinforced by Jesus and you obey the Ten Commandments, and you do not harden your heart, and you do not judge, and you are truly penitent before God, the new Covenant says your sins can be washed away. If you don't, then you're just as likely to go to Hell for being an unrepentant wearer of mixed fibers or an unrepentant eater of unclean meat as you are likely to go to Hell for being an unrepentant sodomite. Or - you were, until Jesus brought forward the New Covenant.

That said, you're just as likely to go to Hell if every single confession you make in a Church is done as a perfunctory, boring but necessary box-ticking exercise while condemning other people for equal or lesser offences, instead of treating as a genuine, honest admission of your own fallibility (back in olden times, rich people who were serial sinners in a very big way used to pay poor people and priests to intercede for them to save them the bother of having to confess properly. That's what "hardening of the heart" looks like.) For all barrack room lawyers, I finally give you this from Hebrews.

"For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more." In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete.

70 posted on 01/31/2023 12:56:58 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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