[Catholic Caucus] Rome, We Have a Problem

Crisis Magazine ^ | February 1, 2024 | February 1, 2024

[ebb tide]

Ping

[Bookshelf]

Although I am a Protestant, my interest in the Latin Mass results from years spent in the Southern Cone of South America. It was a time when there was ferment in the Catholic Churches of Argentina, Paraguay and Chile owing to what was then (and still is called) Liberation Theology. In reading I found that its influence was spread thanks to European Jesuits who, one wag put it, “were always the last to get the word.” I recall that a pastor Lefevbre was the leader of the Latin Mass movement, and to me he seemed an incredibly decent individual who was opposed by the Jesuit Marxists who were then (and apparently still are) infiltrating the Catholic Church. From those days thirty years ago I have followed the agony that has resulted from trying to do away with the Latin Mass: and for the life of me I can neither explain nor understand the effort to quash Catholics attempting to serve Christ and his Church. It is a tragedy.

[NorthMountain]

I can neither explain nor understand the effort to quash Catholics attempting to serve Christ and his Church. It is a tragedy.

It is worse than a tragedy, because it is no accident.

Jesuit Marxists

Marxism is necessarily anti-Christian. IMO, the fullness of Christianity is expressed in the Latin Mass. I think the Marxists also recognize this as Truth ... and therefore wish to destroy not only the Latin Mass but also to destroy we who are dedicated to it. They hate the Latin Mass because they hate God.

[scouter]

I discovered the TLM via the Ordinariate form of the Mass. The Ordinariate form has its roots in the Sarum Mass, which predates the TLM and is what Sts. Thomas More and John Fisher would have been familiar with. It is said in the King’s English, and in many ways seems like an English version of the TLM. But not completely. While it shares a great deal with the TLM, it has its own elements, too. If you want to see what it’s like, you can watch one of them on YouTube at https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ARplOtVUtxw. That is the Mass for the Second Sunday After Epiphany, and is very representative of a normal Sunday Mass.

It was this Mass that opened my eyes to the heritage the reforms after Vatican II stole from me and prepared me to understand and appreciate the TLM.

If anyone is searching for more than their typical Catholic parish offers, but is not inclined or not able to go to a TLM, I highly encourage you to see what the Ordinariate Mass is like and search for an Ordinariate parish you can attend. You can find one at Ordinariate.net. Any Catholic can attend and receive Holy Communion at an Ordinariate parish. It is fully Catholic and fulfills your Sunday obligation.

[Captain Walker]

Bkmk

[Bookshelf]

A good explanation.

[nicollo]

the Jesuit Marxists who were then (and apparently still are) infiltrating the Catholic Church.

Bergoglio.

Perhaps Liberation Theology had died down in the Southern Cone by the time I lived there in the late 80s-90s, so I saw merely the same dissolution of the church through watered-down Liturgy and society in general -- what the "Liberation Theologists" wanted all along.

[Trump_Triumphant]

I salute the Speaker of the House for defying the Sodomite Archbishop of Washington and allowing the Most Beautiful Thing this side of Heaven.

[funwithfood]

My parish Priest said more than once in the course of a sermon...”back when the Jesuits were Catholic....