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John MacArthur's Shepherd's Conference removes Alistair Begg from speakers' lineup for his advice for Christians and same-sex weddings.
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| 02/04/2024
| Ian M. Giatti
Posted on 02/04/2024 8:56:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SaveFerris
Yup. It would (allegedly) be leaving the door open for future opportunities to witness or some such thing.
Going would be showing *Christian compassion* according to him so he’d rather go on the side of *compassion* than be pharisaical and do on the side of *condemnation*.
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posted on
02/05/2024 5:29:24 AM PST
by
metmom
(He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
To: SeekAndFind
It has been said that politics is downwind of the culture. However, in this instance, the increased militancy among political conservatives, largely motivated by the MAGA movement, has caused some backbone growth among evangelical Christians. Alastair Begg has been doctrinally sound, to the extent I have heard from his broadcast sermons. He went with the mainstream culture rather than the Bible in the advice he gave to the grandmother. That American Family Radio and now John MacArthur have sanctioned Begg is indicative of a strong backlash. He needs to walk back his unbiblical remarks and publicly apologize.
To: cyclotic
In other words, those who would not attend the “wedding.”I'd stay away from a wedding like that. Don't know what might be found floating in the punchbowl.
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posted on
02/05/2024 5:44:07 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Wallace T.; metmom
[He went with the mainstream culture rather than the Bible]
Well-said. Your excellent comment is needed on another thread.
When “the mainstream culture” becomes the plumb-line, it’s very late in the day.
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posted on
02/05/2024 5:46:28 AM PST
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
To: metmom
*compassion* or *condemnation*
What shall I do??
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posted on
02/05/2024 5:47:25 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Wallace T.
Experience has shown that
... some backbone growth among evangelical Christians. will getcha in trouble these days.
Make sure you are up for the game.
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posted on
02/05/2024 5:49:27 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Yea Jesus would have talked to them in private and then attended their pagan rituals , to celebrate with them .
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posted on
02/05/2024 5:56:22 AM PST
by
sausageseller
(If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
To: SeekAndFind
One is not unfamiliar with Alistair Begg, who doesn't minimize his Scottish accent on the radio.
So after all that modern Calvinism... this?
Something's up with this guy.
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posted on
02/05/2024 6:00:14 AM PST
by
OKSooner
("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Oops, yeah I would still not agree with her attending - I misread that at first
Joel Olsteen did similar in Houston a few years ago. And then there’s Andy Stanley. I don’t know how Charles Stanley ever let him in a pulpit.
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posted on
02/05/2024 6:08:10 AM PST
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
To: Nervous Tick
[2 Corinthians 6:14 cf
Don’t team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness? What harmony can there be between Christ and the devil? How can a believer be a partner with an unbeliever? And what union can there be between God’s temple and idols? For we are the temple of the living]
I agree. I’ve walked into that trap more than once. Ouch. and....ouch.
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posted on
02/05/2024 6:21:29 AM PST
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
To: cyclotic
Had a woman tell me that her nephew (I think) “did not feel comfortable in his skin”
Wow
So, of course, logically, he now dresses as a woman.......(rolls eyes)
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posted on
02/05/2024 6:24:37 AM PST
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
To: MayflowerMadam
I most emphatically agree with you as to contemporary "Christian" music. My biggest pet peeve about the contemporary worship scene is that the electric guitar and drums have driven organs and choirs out of most churches. Hymn-writing has become a lost art, the
last great hymn having been composed in 1953.
I disagree with John MacArthur on theology--he's a Calivinist and I'm a Wesleyan--but when I attended one of his worship services, it included traditional music.
To: Elsie
“I thought there was one exception?”
The only exception I know of is if the “original” spouse dies, and then, and ONLY then, is he free to remarry. I don’t know of any other exceptions.
In the case of the preacher down the road, even if his original spouse died today, he still entered an adulterous relationship while she lived. It’s a whole icky situation.
Overall, the church seems OK, but for them to call him in that situation, it negates shows a serious lack of discernment within the church leadership. They know better.
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posted on
02/05/2024 6:49:11 AM PST
by
MayflowerMadam
("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant tastes of death but once.")
To: SeekAndFind
"“In that conversation with that grandmother, I was concerned about the well-being of their relationship more than anything else,” he explained." Obviously, Pastor Begg considers the grandmother's relationship with her grandson more important than the grandmother's relationship with God.
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posted on
02/05/2024 6:49:29 AM PST
by
moovova
("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Great comment...and a very “compassionate” way to handle the situation.
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posted on
02/05/2024 6:53:29 AM PST
by
moovova
("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
To: Fiji Hill
Oh, yes.
I try to check out prospective churches online before attending. If I see drums or an electric keyboard, it’s no-go. Or if the “stage” has no podium, but a bunch of mics there so the “worship team” (gag!) has easy access to be able to caress them while prancing around the front. Uh uh. Nope. Not gonna happen.
I’m church organist and pianist, and have told pastors I won’t play certain music, or a keyboard. I simply refuse.
We’ve been to MacArthur’s church for concerts, and he seems solid. Didn’t know he’s an actual Calvinist. He wrote the “Forword” to a book my minister cousin wrote a few years ago.
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posted on
02/05/2024 7:04:55 AM PST
by
MayflowerMadam
("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant tastes of death but once.")
To: Apple Pan Dowdy
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
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posted on
02/05/2024 1:57:45 PM PST
by
Theophilus
(covfefe)
To: SeekAndFind
Interesting that John Piper is on the speakers list too.
Shady crowd…
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posted on
02/05/2024 2:59:38 PM PST
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
To: SaveFerris
Why is he associating himself with Piper?
That’s a red flag IMHO.
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posted on
02/05/2024 3:03:19 PM PST
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
To: Roman_War_Criminal
(John Piper)
I hadn’t really paid attention to him though the name is familiar
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posted on
02/05/2024 4:10:00 PM PST
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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