Posted on 02/22/2024 7:53:40 AM PST by ebb tide
I’ve known Freemasons. They are some of the finest men I’ve encountered.
There are six million Masons worldwide.
99.9% of them have absolutely no clue what the secret teachings are.
Once they learn them—watch your back.
Oh, I see. You know all about these ‘secret teachings’ that almost six million other men don’t?
Argue your conspiratorial nuttiness with someone else.
“Masonry gets slandered by idiots.”
There plenty of them idiots here on FR. My whole family are Masons. And I know many Masons.
I didn’t make this stuff up—the “secret” is not all that secret anymore.
Do your homework—I gave two links to get you started.
The lower level folks are fine.
They are just dupes—not their fault.
I don’t need your links. I’ve known the people, and I know all the nasty conspiracy theories that have been devised throughout their history to condemn the Freemasons.
Like I said, argue this nonsense with someone else.
I don’t know.
I don’t belong to any lodges and I don’t know who their “Supreme Beings” are.
Manley Hall tells it like it is—and the book was written in the 1920s so it is not some conspiracy theorist making stuff up in their mother’s basement.
He is actually sympathetic to Masonry—but his point is that the most important symbols and teachings do not mean what the average Mason thinks they mean.
If you are going to buy into an organization it is a good idea to dig deeply into its mission and philosophy—not just drink the Kool Aid served at local meetings.
So, in your view, George Washington and most of the founding fathers of the USA were godless idiots?
Folks here must think those old Founders were real stupid, too.
The Founding Fathers were mostly deists—which meant they believed in God.
However most key figures were also Masons—which at the upper levels is a very complex worldview far removed from the comfort zone of almost all Freepers.
It is obvious from this thread that most folks here have absolutely no idea what that worldview looked like.
Folks really need to read Manley Hall.
It’s obvious to me that some people here DO grasp this ‘worldview’ on which you claim to be such an expert - and they have no problem with it.
I have not seen one post on this thread that shows any understanding at all of the secret Masonic worldview.
We can’t even reach that low bar—nobody around here is even capable of reasonably discussing the pros and cons of it.
It is fair to say that those folks who recognize it is not traditional Christianity are correct.
The secret teachings are closer to the Medieval alchemists—who are also widely misunderstood.
The kindergarten version of the Secret Teachings:
Mind and matter is one. Humans manifest their own reality. We think then we build. Then there is a feedback loop where what we have built affects what we think.
I could go on..but this stuff is so different than modern conventional thought—whether religious or scientific—that it is like speaking a foreign language.
Oh, but we’re assured that YOU understand the ‘SECRETS’.
There have been MANY books that teach exactly what you state in your post 35 - some authors were Masons, some not - but there’s been nothing secret about them for a long time.
(And of course it’s not ‘traditional Christianity’ - Freemasonry is not a religion. Jews have been Freemasons, some Grand Masters; and there have been and are Muslim Freemasons.)
I will give you an example of the Secret Teachings in action—in today’s world.
You will not like the example—but the anger you will feel is called a “teaching moment”.
Fifty years ago virtually nobody identified themselves as “transgender” and the few that did exist were considered very weird and mentally ill.
Today these freaks hold positions of power in Western governments and other institutions.
What happened?
That is an example of Magic.
Something was created from Nothing.
The human mind manifested an Idea (a really crazy one) and made it real in human institutions.
This was a Top Down operation.
A relatively few people drove the craziness.
They proved they had so much power they could manifest something insane in the real world.
That is the Secret.
Welcome to the Masons.
;-)
No. True magic lies in an awareness, it’s not a manipulation.
Silly or weak-minded people can be convinced to believe anything, especially when their societal stability is disintegrating and threatening - and there are always evil people willing to manipulate that. That isn’t magic.
(I guess you think that deluded people playing with so-called ‘Wiccan’ rituals are practicing ‘magic’; or that I can just ‘decide’ to hit the lottery and have it come true.)
And that's a crying shame, that: they have no problem with it: indifferentism.
Papal Condemnations of the Lodge
Masonry constitutes a religion of naturalism which considers the basic Christian doctrines of the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Atonement, the necessity of baptism, and the role of the Church in the plan of salvation to be quite incidental. The lodge furthermore exacts a series of oaths from its candidates which cannot be called valid extrajudicial oaths; those who swear such oaths, agreeing to the most horrible self-mutilation in order to protect a few passwords and secret grips, are objectively guilty of either vain or rash swearing. Third, the Masonic order has historically sought to destroy the Catholic Church and to substitute a purely secular society. Posing as nonpartisan in religious affairs the lodge plumps for abolishment of parochial schools, easy divorce laws, cremation, suppression of religious orders especially the Society of Jesus, and a separation of Church and State never envisioned by the framers of the First Amendment. In addition, American Freemasonry discriminates against Negroes, promotes a spirit of religious indifference, lends itself to manifold injustices through preferential treatment of Masons by Masons, and expunges the name of Christ from lodge prayers and from Bible passages used in the ritual.
Go into the local Masonic lodge and denounce the Trans movement—and watch what happens next.
Lol.
The Magic is powerful and it is real—and it is not your friend.
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