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The cross: A symbol, but of what?
AP via Providence Journal ^ | 3/16/02 | RICHARD N. OSTLING

Posted on 03/16/2002 6:42:19 AM PST by LarryLied

It's the most familiar symbol you can imagine, but ponder for a moment how odd it is that Christians display an "emblem of suffering and shame," as the hymn says.

The cross reminds us that Jesus was executed as a common criminal, hardly the upbeat message a publicist might choose.

Yet two decades after Calvary, the Apostle Paul wrote, "Far be it from me to glory except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ" (Galatians 6:14). Under this mysterious emblem, the early Christians vanquished the empire that had crucified Jesus.

The symbol holds 21st-century power. Two days after the World Trade Center attack, a rescue worker wept as he discovered a 20-foot cross -- two fused metal beams buried in the rubble. This cross provided comfort to impromptu worshippers amid the mourning.

Yet the cross is spurned by Christian liberals Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker. They find belief in Jesus' saving death repellent, saying this sanctifies violence and submission to evil.

"To say that Jesus' executioners did what was historically necessary for salvation is to say that state terrorism is a good thing, that torture and murder are the will of God," they say in their book Proverbs of Ashes (Beacon).

Brock, a Harvard Divinity researcher, has chaired the joint global ministries board of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and United Church of Christ, and was a theology speaker at the Disciples's national assembly last year. Parker is a United Methodist Church minister and president of the Unitarian Universalist seminary in Berkeley, Calif.

Roman Catholic leftist John Dominic Crossan has joined in, hailing the authors' attack upon what he considers "the most unfortunately successful idea in the history of Christian thought." And the current Unitarian Universalist magazine features Brock and Parker in a cover story headlined "Violence and Doctrine: How Christianity Twists the Meaning of Jesus' Death."

"Perfect . . . sacrifice"

By contrast, another current author joins Paul in glorying in the cross. Fleming Rutledge, a traveling Episcopal preacher who lives in Port Chester, N.Y., embraces the Book of Common Prayer's Communion affirmation that Jesus Christ made "a full, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice, oblation and satisfaction, for the sins of the whole world."

Rutledge has collected seasonal meditations in her book The Undoing of Death (Eerdmans). Though sermons often fall flat on the printed page, this book is unusually readable devotional fare.

She believes the cross is misunderstood if we forget that Jesus the Son is equally God along with the Father (which liberal Christians and Unitarians deny). And some conservatives portray "a wrathful Father piling condemnation on an innocent, victimized Son. This mistake must be strenuously resisted," she writes.

The heart of the atoning sacrifice on the cross, Rutledge insists, is "the fact that the Father's will and the Son's will are one. This is an action that the Father and the Son are taking together." They are "accomplishing our redemption together," acting in united love for humanity.

However, her Good Friday sermons worry less about such liberal or conservative theories than about people's inclination to pretend their sins aren't all that bad so they have no need of a Savior.

"We do not like to believe that we deserve condemnation," she says.

Some seek to justify themselves by the kind of people they like to think they are -- more moral, sensitive, loving, intelligent, thoughtful, patriotic, fashionable or socially aware than others. Then there's the opposite, people who tell themselves they're more misunderstood, long-suffering and deserving than anyone else.

But Christianity says we're all sinners in the light of God's holiness. Despite sin, Rutledge believes, when Christ looks at someone "he sees a person that he loves more than life, more than glory, more than power, more than riches, more than divinity itself."

She also contends that the cross shows us Christianity is true. The reason? Mere human imagination or wishful thinking would never have concocted "a despised and rejected Messiah."



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1 posted on 03/16/2002 6:42:19 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
What's next? An Atheist "minister"?

BTW, Jesus IS God, in the flesh.

2 posted on 03/16/2002 6:46:01 AM PST by GuillermoX
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To: LarryLied
Crucify Them!
3 posted on 03/16/2002 6:52:01 AM PST by Khepera
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To: LarryLied
Brothers and Sisters, This is the same UCC that wrote "Now No Condemnation" which puts actively practicing homosex's in the pulpit. It also sponsored the litigation against the Boy Scouts. The Unitarian Universalists are doctinally bankrupt. They pick and choose scripture.

Brock, a Harvard Divinity researcher, has chaired the joint global ministries board of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and United Church of Christ, and was a theology speaker at the Disciples's national assembly last year. Parker is a United Methodist Church minister and president of the Unitarian Universalist seminary in Berkeley, Calif.

More Jesus gotcha books. They are in for a big suprise. DrMike

4 posted on 03/16/2002 6:58:28 AM PST by STD
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To: GuillermoX;Ann Archy;pax_et_bonum;patent
By the time the left is done, church will be reduced to coffee and donuts. The big debate will be over whether coffee is OK or should they go to de-caf and tea.

I expect this from Unitarians (my church). They've been on this road for 200 years. But a Catholic priest? What is he doing in the church?

5 posted on 03/16/2002 6:59:07 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: Khepera
We do not like to believe that we deserve condemnation," she says.

Nice thought, but the fact is God is no respecter of persons. "Lord, I am not worthy..."

6 posted on 03/16/2002 6:59:57 AM PST by ImaGraftedBranch
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To: LarryLied
Those "churches" aren't part of the Church. They are simply apostate social organizations, tools of the devil.
7 posted on 03/16/2002 7:02:44 AM PST by GuillermoX
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To: LarryLied
"Yet the cross is spurned by Christian liberals Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker. They find belief in Jesus'saving death repellent, saying this sanctifies violence and submission to evil. "

These two cannot be Christians. The 'submission to evil' and the death and Resurrection of the Christ is the central point of Christianity. Several times, Jesus is shown in the Gospels having ( a very human ) difficulty with the fate of which he was aware ( such as the Agony in the Garden ). It is through his sacrifice that humanity was redeemed--purchased by the ultimate price.

To claim to find this idea 'repellant' is definitely not Christian. Perhaps the two women mentioned above are from a town named 'Christian', since they definitely do not have a basic understanding of their faith.

8 posted on 03/16/2002 7:02:54 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: LarryLied;4ConservativeJustices
Jesus hung on the cross to redeem us, that's why the cross is important. I don't have to hang on it myself. See, those "liberal" Christians need to READ THE BOOK. Duh! Then they might not be liberals any more... .
9 posted on 03/16/2002 7:05:41 AM PST by Ff--150
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To: LarryLied
I expect this from Unitarians (my church). They've been on this road for 200 years. But a Catholic priest? What is he doing in the church?

He's a professor emeritus at DePaul U in Chicago, not a priest.

John Dominic Crossan biographical information

I know that doesn't answer your question 'what is he doing in the church [sic]?'
10 posted on 03/16/2002 7:09:38 AM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: LarryLied
This article very clearly shows the source of many of the political fallacies foisted on our nation for the last 100 years or so...and without a doubt, the roots of the errors are spiritual.

'Liberal' churches are the source of much of the socialism that has degraded and eroded the foundation of our republic.

Thanks for a great post.

Regards...EV

11 posted on 03/16/2002 7:10:53 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: LarryLied
As another poster pointed out, Crossan is not a priest. Your question could be asked of a number of CINOs, Helen Prejean as only one example.
12 posted on 03/16/2002 7:27:16 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Ff--150
You know, without His death and resurrection, wouldn't it be just a little waste of time to bother going to church then?

Of course that's what they're after anyway. Deny the basic tenets of the church, then why bother going to church to feel good, we can do that right here in our humanistic government sponsored feel good seminar. Take faith out of the equation and all you have to rely on is the State. Thanks, but no thanks. God works miracles, they don't.

13 posted on 03/16/2002 7:34:49 AM PST by billbears
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To: LarryLied
Yet the cross is spurned by Christian liberals Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker.

1Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

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14 posted on 03/16/2002 7:38:31 AM PST by JCG
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To: LarryLied
Why do these people (Brock, Parker, and Crossan) remind me of the nuns at a local, liberal retreat house who refused to kneel during the consecration at mass, because they felt the need to "stand as adults before God"?
15 posted on 03/16/2002 7:41:23 AM PST by pax_et_bonum
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To: LarryLied
The whole article refers to people who dont believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ as "Christians". Replace the word "liberal Christian" with "non-Christian" and the article makes 100% more sense. These "theologians" are just leftwingers who found a home.

As for UCC - Should be renamed... "First Liberal Church of Agnosticism, unReformed".

16 posted on 03/16/2002 7:46:31 AM PST by WOSG
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To: LarryLied
By the way, here's another true tale of that retreat house:

I was there on a personal, silent retreat while they had a women's group retreat going on. One day, there was no mass scheduled on the grounds and so I attended their Communion service. The song of choice during the distribution of Holy Communion was "When You Wish Upon A Star."

No joke. The one from, I think, Pinnochio.

17 posted on 03/16/2002 7:47:51 AM PST by pax_et_bonum
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To: LarryLied
Yet the cross is spurned by Christian liberals Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker. They find belief in Jesus' saving death repellent, saying this sanctifies violence and submission to evil.

At least the sentence makes sense now.

18 posted on 03/16/2002 7:56:55 AM PST by Fzob
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To: pax_et_bonum
"the nuns at a local, liberal retreat house who refused to kneel during the consecration at mass, because they felt the need to "stand as adults before God"? "

This seems to be increasing habit with habit-less nuns (pun intended). Maybe they have the same view as Eve who didn't think being made in the 'image and likeness' of God was good enough. Eve wanted to be God.

Maybe with the 'People-is-God' attitude today, these nuns do not accept a 'consecration' performed by some 'apple eating-Jesus-acting' man.

19 posted on 03/16/2002 8:07:00 AM PST by ex-snook
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To: JZoback
ping
20 posted on 03/16/2002 8:13:59 AM PST by Fzob
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