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To: american colleen
Anyone hear Michael Rose on Howie Carr today?

I'll try to transcribe it tomorrow or Sunday and post it. The high point I remember is the guy who called in about a friend of his who was at St. John's, I think in the 70s(?). He and the other nine straights were so harrassed by the gays that they left. At one point the guy's friend complained to whoever was in charge, who told him he would have to get used to a "new vision of the priesthood."

25 posted on 06/07/2002 2:25:38 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
Thank you! I searched wrko for a tape of the broadcast, but apparently they don't sell them.

My parish took a collection up a few weeks ago for the MA seminaries (no, I did not contribute) and my priest said that he knows the priest in charge at St. John's and he is a good guy - but, since my priest has never addressed the crisis as one stemming from disobedience to Rome or a problem of homosexuality in the seminaries, they'll have to do without my $$$. I hear St. John's has been cleaned up, but who knows.

BTW, you would get a kick out of this website: "Fr. Bob Carr's blogspot" - his columns are pretty good, and then click on "the e-cathedral" and read "the lady in the pew" columns - especially the ones about women in the church and her take on VOTF.

26 posted on 06/07/2002 3:12:19 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: maryz
I had forgotten that line from Narnia.Thanks for going back and reading the article,to me,it is totally believable and I could go further but I will stop.

Addressing your comment on the post to which I am responding,did you ever read Thomas Sowell's book, "A Conflict of Visions"? It is a wonderful read and the beginning of my own development of a workable sorting process.

After I read it it became clear to me that within the Church in America we had two factions with two visions. I used to write letters to the editor of the diocesan newspaper and to clearly differentiate I took to calling one faction,members of the Catholic Church and the other faction,members of the "Church of the New and Different Vision".

The paper was in the possession of the Church of the New and Different Vision,and did not print but one of my letters.

27 posted on 06/07/2002 6:24:45 PM PDT by saradippity
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