Skip to comments.Creationists Gather...Dinosaurs Subject of Discussion
Posted on 07/20/2002 2:08:38 PM PDT by yankeedame
Saturday, July 20, 2002
Creationists gather today:Dinosaurs subject of discussion
By Cindy Schroeder, email@example.com
The Cincinnati Enquirer
UNION As children create models of dinosaurs, their parents can search for Biblical references to the giant creatures at a weekend conference hosted by a pro-Creationist ministry that vows to defend scripture from the very first verse.
The site of the Answers in Genesis Creation Museum in Boone County is being graded. (Patrick Reddy photo) | ZOOM | Organizers of the program running today and Sunday at Big Bone Baptist Church in Union say the Answers in Genesis family conference is expected to draw between 500 and 600 people within a day's drive of the Tristate. They say it is part of an ongoing series of family conferences that the 8-year-old nonprofit ministry now building a 50,000-square-foot museum in Hebron has offered throughout the country to give (believers) arguments to help debunk evolution.
Answers in Genesis followers believe the Earth's creatures were created by God and were not the result of an evolutionary process as espoused by scientists such as Charles Darwin.
Our purpose is to equip Christians to be able to defend Christianity against the evolutionary ideas (or) secular ideas that challenge the Bible, said Ken Ham, executive director of Answers in Genesis and the conference's keynote speaker. He said organizers will present what they believe is the factual account of the history of the world as presented in Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament.
Like those who promote Intelligent Design, Answers in Genesis followers believe that all life was the result of a creator. However, they carry that theory further, in that they maintain the creator is the God of the Bible and you can trust the God of the Bible, Mr. Ham said.
With the help of the writings of Scriptural Geologists, Terry Mortenson, a full-time lecturer with Answers in Genesis who has degrees in theology and geology, will attempt to show that dinosaurs walked the Earth with man.
Arnold Miller, a professor of geology at the University of Cincinnati, challenged participants to go out and examine the evidence themselves, rather than allow others to interpret the evidence for them.
I'm all for Answers in Genesis having every opportunity to say what they want, Mr. Miller said. But I would challenge anyone who goes to this conference to demand direct positive evidence that the creation of life took place over six days in 4004 B.C. or whatever they say. People should ask, "What's the evidence? Let's hear it.'
It's one thing to provide misleading characterizations in scientific debates. It's another to say that the answers (to issues such as how life began) really are in Genesis.
Again, in terms of general tendencies, the breakdown was something like this:
Classical Conservatives (Tories) - Creationist
Classical Liberals (Whigs) - Darwinian Evolutionists
Radicals, Socialists, etc - Lamarkian Evolutionists
I hope that doesn't confuse you.
They swooned from happiness and were never seen again.
Appropriate setting for a program on dinosaurs!
The problem is the geneology presented in Luke, which traces Jesus back, generation by generation, back to Adam. Since Christians believe tht the entire Bible is divinely inspired Truth written by God Himself via the Holy Spirit, then Adam was created, not evolved, and that precludes evolution.
That guy is not debunking anything. Look at 1.1:
According to Big Bang theory, the universe came from nothing. But something cannot come from nothing. Therefore, there must be a creator. REPLY: (i) First, of all, the idea of the universe "coming from" nothing, far from being a stipulation of standard Big Bang theory, is inconsistent with it.
That's snake oil. Matter and energy exists. It had to come from somewhere. The Big Bang is science's best explanation for it. Since it falls way short, Mark Vuletic throws in something called the "theory of quantum gravity." Then he says "no theory of quantum gravity has yet been fully developed."
Patrick, that's not debunking anything.
Many other replies are along the lines of "that's right but irrelevant:"
3.5: Cells are too complex to have come into existence all at once by pure chance. REPLY: This is true, but irrelevant
or "we're still looking into it."
3.2: Amino acids in living organisms are all left-handed, but in nature, equal amounts of left-handed and right-handed amino acids form, so one would expect them to occur in equal proportions in living organisms if abiogenesis were true. REPLY: There is no consensus on how this problem is to be resolved, but there are several possibilities that continue to be explored.
About the only real debunking I saw was the one in which he showed that Einstein was not an anti-evolutionist.
More interesting is how they got back, after the flood. How did they know, in general, to return to those areas where related forms occur as fossils? How did placental mammals know that only marsupial fossils are found in Australia, and that they shouldn't go there?
Specially adapted cave-dwelling organisms have a very strong tendency to be closely related to above-gound living ones in the same locality (comprising, say, different but clearly similar genera). At the same time those that are obligatory cave dwellers are seldom widely distributed, with each cave system having its own particular species and genera. IOW they are more closely affiliated with local terrestial organisms inhabiting very different environments then they are with those inhabiting nearly identical environments in other cave systems. How did they manage to sort themselves out so post flood?
In South America they are trees or shrubs and ants that are co-adapted in such detailed and specific ways that they are classed as single "ecological species," so called "ant-plants". How did those get all the way to S.A. from Ararat?
14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am .  This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'IAM has sent me to you.' "
Has not God evolved because of our understanding, of the sciences?
No. And neither have we. Only our understanding of the sciences has evolved.
However medved will be here shortly to explain how the earth was orbiting Saturn at the time which ment there was far less gravity making it possible to all animals to fly to their present habitats
Yet another rephrasing of the false dilemma...
And thanks for the ping.
The Greeks and Egyptians were able to figure that one out.