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Did Communists Infiltrate the Catholic Church?
http://www.chuckmorse.com/communism_catholic_church.html ^ | Chuck Morse

Posted on 07/26/2002 2:35:57 PM PDT by narses

As a traditional Jew, I'm deeply concerned over the plight of the Roman Catholic Church, which I consider to be the largest and most influential repository of conservative Judeo-Christian values in America today. I believe that those of us who care about the furtherance of a moral society have a stake in the future of the church as a moral force. The American church is under siege today, not only from the usual external forces but also from the weight of its own internal contradictions. The scandal of corrupt homosexual priests violating the innocence of minors in their care is, to put it mildly, a contradiction in Christian and Catholic practice and faith. When did this corruption inject itself into the system and why was the situation allowed to deteriorate to such a degree?

Much has been written regarding Communist methods of infiltration. The standard method was to "bore from within" which involved Communists disguising themselves as loyalists to an organization they sought to undermine. Once gaining entry, they would gradually and subtly change the values and principles of the targeted organization. The process of "change" can take a generation. Communists have exhibited unlimited patience and supreme confidence in the ultimate attainment of their goals. Examples in America include substantial inroads by Communists into organized labor, academia, the legal profession, race relations, cultural institutions, and the government itself.

When planning to infiltrate, the Communists probe for an institutional weakness to exploit and, in the case of the Catholic Church, perhaps they perceived the weakness to reside in the all-male celibate priesthood. Did Communists send their followers, particularly homosexuals, sexual deviants, and enablers, into seminaries to become priests in order to foster a homosexual culture within the church? Homosexuals, practicing their predilections in an overwhelmingly conservative Catholic community, while given protection by well placed minded superiors, could certainly contribute to the undermining of faith in Catholicism and could unquestionably shake the credibility and moral standing of the church itself down to its very foundations. Undermining Catholic authority has been a clear and often stated goal of the Communist left. Speculation regarding how the Communists attempted to implement their program is reasonable and necessary in order to better understand the present situation.

Two former Communists, Bella Dodd and Manning Johnson, spoke on Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. Dodd, an important Communist party lawyer, teacher and activist, converted to Catholicism in April 1952 under the tutelage of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Stating that the Communist infiltration was so extensive that in the future "you will not recognize the Catholic Church," Dodd also asserted that:

"In the 1930's, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within."

"Right now they are in the highest places, and they are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church will no longer be effective against Communism."

Manning Johnson, a former Communist Party official and author of "Color, Communism and Common Sense" testified in 1953 to the House un-American Activities Committee regarding the infiltration of the Catholic Church:

"Once the tactic of infiltration of religious organizations was set by the Kremlin ... the Communists discovered that the destruction of religion could proceed much faster through infiltration of the (Catholic) Church by Communists operating within the Church itself. The Communist leadership in the United States realized that the infiltration tactic in this country would have to adapt itself to American conditions (Europe also had its cells) and the religious make-up peculiar to this country. In the earliest stages it was determined that with only small forces available to them, it would be necessary to concentrate Communist agents in the seminaries. The practical conclusion drawn by the Red leaders was that these institutions would make it possible for a small Communist minority to influence the ideology of future clergymen in the paths conducive to Communist purposes This policy of infiltrating seminaries was successful beyond even our communist expectations."

As a radio talk show host and avid listener to talk radio in Boston, I've listened intently to comments by Catholics as the crisis has unfolded. Much has been said regarding the left dominance of the seminaries and a prevalence of the ideas of "liberation theology" which is a biblically contradictory Trojan horse within the Catholic gates. Establishment organs, such as the Boston Globe, continue to wring their hands over the homosexual activities of priests while supporting a homosexual agenda everywhere else. Hopefully, the Catholic flock will wake up and sweep the corruption out of their church in the same way that their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, swept the moneychangers out of the Temple.

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341 posted on 07/28/2008 6:51:46 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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Did Communists Infiltrate the Catholic Church?
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YES!!!!!

It is one of many reasons I am no longer Catholic.

On another thread a poster reported that their local Catholic schools are advertising. One of the points in the ad was that the Catholic schools would make their child a citizen of the world.


342 posted on 07/28/2008 7:30:54 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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bttt


343 posted on 07/28/2008 7:35:17 PM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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To: Aliska

“If I’ve met any communists in the church, they sure have fooled me.”

really? lay liturgists couldn’t fool anyone.... lol


344 posted on 07/29/2008 2:58:44 AM PDT by rogernz
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To: narses

Thank you very much for the ping, narses.

I remember, about 10 years ago, a co-worker gave me a book to read about this very subject. Supposedly a nurse had found a journal, written by a dying priest, in which he chronicled how he was a communist and part of the conspiracy to infiltrate the Catholic Church. It was scary then, and it’s scary now.


345 posted on 07/29/2008 3:03:07 AM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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"I would recommend reading AA-1025: The Memoirs of an Anti-Apostle"

THATS the book! (See my post 345) I remember that it was a chilling read.

I'm sure communists were not the only ones trying to bring down the church - but add in the modernism, homosexuality, and the changing cultural climate, and it has made the church more vulnerable. However, as somebody else posted, the groups who want to see the church fall are "prematurely blowing taps". Pope Benedict is turning this ship around!

God bless Pope Benedict!

346 posted on 07/29/2008 3:32:10 AM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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It is one of many reasons I am no longer Catholic.

If that's your response to an "infiltration" by a hostile force, I daresay, you never were one.

347 posted on 11/16/2008 1:16:30 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (making full use of an unfair advantage in the marketplace of ideas)
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348 posted on 03/06/2011 2:23:07 PM PST by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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Nine years later. Wow.


349 posted on 03/06/2011 2:43:52 PM PST by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: Domestic Church

Those links are now dead - any updates?


350 posted on 03/06/2011 3:18:55 PM PST by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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Did Communists Infiltrate the Catholic Church?

Oh, come on! A better question is, "What entity in opposition to Communism have they they not infiltrated?"

I'd say they Catholic Church has done a better job of repelling Communist infiltration than the Federal Government.

351 posted on 03/07/2011 9:54:41 PM PST by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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Did Communists Infiltrate the Catholic Church?

Oh, come on! A better question is, "What entity in opposition to Communism have they they not infiltrated?"

I'd say they Catholic Church has done a better job of repelling Communist infiltration than the Federal Government.

352 posted on 03/07/2011 9:54:46 PM PST by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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353 posted on 01/14/2012 6:06:29 AM PST by narses
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Th answer is that communists did infiltrate the Catholic Church - I have been aware of this for some time now. The Novus Ordo liturgy reflects shades of this - waiting in the “bread line” for communion, a serious weakening of the idea of hierarchy as in the priests are “the same” as the people. Very disturbing.

Read Aa-1025 Memoirs of a Communists Priests Infiltration in to the Catholic Church. This is not fiction. Request it from the library. There’s lots more to be said on this, but it is real and is somewhat working as the Catholic Churches close, the Catholic schools close, the liberal bishops teach socialism, and homosexuals invade the priesthood. This plan for this large scale breakdown was not an accident! and parallels the secular political world breadkdown into socialism.


354 posted on 01/14/2012 6:55:52 AM PST by stonehouse01
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Old but good post. Was it predicted should we have known? 2nd Thessalonians (and many other scriptures from the bible), St. Nilus, Our Lady of Good Success, Fatima... Maybe we should have gotten the message way before it happen, but that is the story of Mankind, we continue to place ourselves above God and close our eyes and ears in arrogance.

Pray for us and do what you have been called to do. God has a reason for everything, We just don’t or choose not to understand much of the time.


355 posted on 01/15/2012 2:39:11 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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Try the wayback machine:

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php


356 posted on 01/15/2012 6:29:02 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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357 posted on 10/12/2014 4:00:41 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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358 posted on 10/12/2014 4:24:41 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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Did Communists Infiltrate the Catholic Church? >>>

YES!


359 posted on 11/13/2014 6:46:08 PM PST by Coleus
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