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[WARNING: I think this is a fabrication] Prophecy attributed to Mother Teresa?

Posted on 08/02/2002 7:18:24 AM PDT by Polycarp

While attending a retreat this weekend, I learned of a prophetic vision or dream experienced by Mother Theresa just hours before she died in September 1997. The details we were given, (by an internationally renowned priest, and highly responsible and reliable source), are rather sketchy, but worth relating. Mother Theresa apparently awoke at about 8:00 pm on the evening she died. (She was to die at approximately 9:30 pm). She was perfectly lucid and in full possession of her faculties. She summoned the members of her community to gather round, and she related her dream, which was rooted in the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

The First Horseman represented the plague that is to overtake the world and kill millions. It would strike five years after her death, in the month of August. The second Horseman represented the war, to take place in 2003. Though of short duration, it would once again claim millions of victims. America would wage total war in the Middle East, (the plans for this are well advanced, it's all about oil, but more on that some other time), Russia would ultimately join with America, while China would arm and side with the Muslims. It would become a nuclear exchange.

The third Horseman wasn't mentioned, but the fourth was a brilliant shining light. Mother Theresa apparently revealed that it represented God, and admonished her sisters to cling to Him with unflinching trust and not despair throughout whatever was to come. One of the things that arouses doubts about the authenticity of private revelation is precise dates. Heaven invests a purposeful ambiguity here; we are not given a schedule according to which we can amend our lives in our own good time, but are instead prudently advised to act as though things will happen sooner rather than later. But what makes this case so different is that all of this information has been included in the documentation that is being sent to Rome in support of Mother Theresa's cause for beatification.


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This came from a friend on a Catholic web site I used to help with. I do not believe it is a legitimate prophecy, as I have never seen it even mentioned before in any "credible" source. I am just putting this out to see if anyone here has ever heard of such a prophecy attributed to Mother Teresa. I think this is a fabrication.

At one time, about 10 years ago, I followed much of the Marian "apparitions" and Catholic prophecy quite closely. However, I found this robbed me of my peace, and there was absolutely no valid objective criteria upon which to discern the validity of various claims.

I am just curious whether others here have seen this floating around the internet, or have heard of this alleged prophecy before?

1 posted on 08/02/2002 7:18:24 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: patent; Siobhan; sitetest; JMJ333; narses; Catholicguy; *Catholic_list; Notwithstanding; ...
For clarification: I did not write this, I just copied and pasted it from another web site run by a friend (the youngest sister of Catholic apologist Pat Madrid.)

Just FYI and for your input...pinging
2 posted on 08/02/2002 7:20:15 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
But what is the third secret!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 posted on 08/02/2002 7:30:37 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
LOL! I'm just trying to help a friend diffuse concern over this "prophecy." I hope to prove there is no credible basis on which to claim this "prophecy" even exists, but I did not want to bias my fellow Catholic Freepers here in their evaluation, so that my findings here would be seen as credible by those disquieted by this "prophecy."
4 posted on 08/02/2002 7:35:32 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
Haven't heard this one, but the first would commence this month, right? If it were true. I've heard some humdingers in the last few years, mostly attributied to the Mary sighings.

What are you questioning, the prophecy or the identity of the prophet?
5 posted on 08/02/2002 7:37:13 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Notwithstanding
But what is the third secret

'Don't hold a Council'? < /joke>
6 posted on 08/02/2002 7:39:45 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Polycarp
"[W]hen the alleged experience [of private revelation] has been apprehended through the use of spiritual faculties which we either do not possess or do not use, our confidence in the 'something there' necessarily evaporates. Which is, I suppose, why the Church tells us that a private revelation may be such as to demand credence from the soul which experiences it, but can never, of itself, demand credence from other people." [Msgr Ronald Knox in The Belief of Catholics]
7 posted on 08/02/2002 7:43:21 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Polycarp
At one time, about 10 years ago, I followed much of the Marian "apparitions" and Catholic prophecy quite closely. However, I found this robbed me of my peace

Truly said. I used to do the same thing and I used to buy the books of prophecies, visions etc. The friends I know who attended to this closer than did I, were totally freaked about Y2K and they were absoultely convinced that everything would collapse. We appeared to deal with it ok. Now, those same friends are anticipating other future tragedies with similar certitude they are inescapable

8 posted on 08/02/2002 7:48:08 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Polycarp
That this would appear, suddenly, to coincide with the first major occurrence of this "revelation" makes it highly suspect.

Anybody can say anything and attribute it to anybody else. Anyway, the "it's all about oil" sounds fishy to me as well.

9 posted on 08/02/2002 7:48:32 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Mike Fieschko
But what is the third secret

The Buffalo Bills will never win the Super Bowl

10 posted on 08/02/2002 7:50:04 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
"But what is the third secret
The Buffalo Bills will never win the Super Bowl"

No, No, No. The Cubs and Red Sox will meet in a World Series.
11 posted on 08/02/2002 7:58:04 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Mike Fieschko
LOL
12 posted on 08/02/2002 8:05:14 AM PDT by Sock
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To: Desdemona
the prophecy
13 posted on 08/02/2002 8:16:32 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Desdemona; Polycarp
"...but the first would commence this month, right?"

I just read this week about Saddam having an ebola laboratory in some underground bunker.

Polycarp, I have a dear friend in my parish who knew Mother Teresa, scrubbed toliets with her up in Harleem while she tried to discern whether she belonged in her order, and I will ask her if she has heard anything about this.
14 posted on 08/02/2002 8:19:36 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: Catholicguy
"Bills" stands for Boy, I Like Losing Superbowls.
15 posted on 08/02/2002 8:19:52 AM PDT by Steve1789
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To: Polycarp
Do you think this may have just been released now to coincide with the news that the US and UK governments are stocking up on smallpox vaccine?
16 posted on 08/02/2002 8:26:02 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: Polycarp
Hey, just be grateful Hal Lindsey isn't a Catholic ;)
17 posted on 08/02/2002 8:39:00 AM PDT by Frumanchu
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To: Polycarp
But what makes this case so different is that all of this information has been included in the documentation that is being sent to Rome in support of Mother Theresa's cause for beatification.
Probably with a note saying there is no proof she ever said this. Had she said it I would be more than a little shocked to have not heard it before now. We hear every public word Sister Lucia speaks in short order, usually before she says it. I can't imagine why it would take five years for a real prophecy from Mother Theresa to spread.

patent

18 posted on 08/02/2002 8:42:53 AM PDT by patent
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To: Frumanchu
>>>>>Hey, just be grateful Hal Lindsey isn't a Catholic ;)

We are praying he will convert, and go mute, but not in that order. ;-)

patent

19 posted on 08/02/2002 8:43:37 AM PDT by patent
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To: patent
Had she said it I would be more than a little shocked to have not heard it before now.

Definitely true.

20 posted on 08/02/2002 8:57:21 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Desdemona
The Cubs and Red Sox will meet in a World Series.

Last Series won by Red Sox: 1918.

Ted Williams. 1918 - 2002.
21 posted on 08/02/2002 9:49:49 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko
The Cubs and Red Sox will meet in a World Series.

Last Series won by Red Sox: 1918.

Last Series won by Cubs: 1908.

22 posted on 08/02/2002 9:51:41 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Catholicguy; Polycarp
Truly said. I used to do the same thing and I used to buy the books of prophecies, visions etc. The friends I know who attended to this closer than did I, were totally freaked about Y2K and they were absoultely convinced that everything would collapse. We appeared to deal with it ok. Now, those same friends are anticipating other future tragedies with similar certitude they are inescapable

You are so right. I had a neighbor who was "converted" at Medjugorje. She became involved with a national group of visionaries who also claim to be receiving messages from the BVM. Carol Ameche's name immediately comes to mind.

As Y2K drew closer, she started talking about black helicopters and UN plans to grab property. They were all waiting (and still are) for The Warning. It was like an obsession.

I have not heard anything about Mother Teresa's supposed apparition, not have I been able to find any information at other web sites.

23 posted on 08/02/2002 10:02:13 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Desdemona
The Cubs and Red Sox will meet in a World Series.

Apocalypse 13:13 "Woe betide that team that trades the Babe."

24 posted on 08/02/2002 10:04:32 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Desdemona
It'll happen next year.
25 posted on 08/02/2002 10:05:06 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
"It'll happen next year."

Dream on! It's going to take some massive prayer and a miracle or two. The Red Sea loves the Cubs, but the Apocolypse WILL happen before they win a series. It's been 20 years here and we're getting anxious.
26 posted on 08/02/2002 11:06:45 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona
LOL I'm on edge right now, that positive post didn't help at all.

And if the end comes before the Cubs win another WS, I'll still be happy.

27 posted on 08/02/2002 11:11:06 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Desdemona
What's the talk in Cardinal countr? Is Rolen going to sign now, or will the Cubs get a shot at him in the off season?
28 posted on 08/02/2002 11:12:27 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
Well...Walt gave the fans a mandate. "Work magic." So, we'll see.
29 posted on 08/02/2002 11:15:30 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Polycarp
The third Horseman wasn't mentioned, but the fourth was a brilliant shining light.

Sounds like a UFO invasion to me.

30 posted on 08/03/2002 12:02:35 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Polycarp
Mother Teresa expired on 5th September, Friday 1997 in Calcutta.

5 years after Mother Teresa's death (September 2002) 1st Horseman would bring plague that kills millions

1st Seal - White Horse, rider with bow & crown went forth conquering (Rev 6:1-2)
2003, 2nd horseman brings war with millions of victims
2nd Seal - Red Horse, rider given power to take peace from the earth, [people] slay each other, and rider given a great sword (Rev 6:3-4)

3rd Seal - Black Horse, rider brings famine (Rev 6:5-6)

Fourth horseman is bring shining light that represents God
4th Seal - Pale Horse, rider is Death, Hades follows, they together kill 1/4 of the earth by sword, hunger, death, and beasts (Rev 6:7-8a)
The timing could fit. This summer, the "Madrid Quartet" (US, Russia, EU, UN) had planned to enact a Mideast Peace plan between Israel and the PLO which could be a false peace. If it is the False Peace which begins the 7 year tribulation, then the 1st Seal could be opened thereafter (Sept?) and a mideast war, possibly with weapons of mass destruction, in full swing by 2003.

However:
The 1st seal/horseman should not seem to bear a plague, and most significant is the 4th Horseman is not God, and on that basis I would tend to discount all of it.

As Polycarp notes, only the Father knows the time of the Son's return, but we are told for what signs of the end of the age we are to watch (and many do seem to be budding), so we should stay watchful, and keep our lamps filled.

31 posted on 08/03/2002 12:57:30 AM PDT by Starwind
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To: Polycarp
There are some serious problems here, the first is the first horse "The First Horseman represented the plague that is to overtake the world and kill millions " Yet according to the discription of the first horse and it's rider in Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Rider on a white horse with a crown is the Lord Jesus.

The fourth horse according to your post is " but the fourth was a brilliant shining light. Mother Theresa apparently revealed that it represented God, " Yet according to Revelation 6:7&8 the fourth horse is in no way the Lord And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

I would have to say that whoever made this up, while maybe a Roman Catholic priest, certainly has very little knowledge of the word of God.

32 posted on 08/03/2002 6:01:24 PM PDT by aha?
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