No Physical Heaven/Hell ... says the Pope?

Toledo Blade ^ | Saturday, August 14, 1999 | JUDY TARJANYI

[Utah Girl]

Ah, come on, you have a shot at the Celestial kingdom, everyone does.

[Tantumergo]

"Are you suggesting the Pope is heretical?"

No I rather think he has been misquoted. He probably said "hell is as much a state as it is a place" or as Theresa suggested quite sensibly - he could have been referring to the torment experienced by the damned prior to reunion with their physical bodies at the general resurrection.

However, it is quite permissible for the Pope to make a genuine mistake without any danger of him being a heretic! He is not expected to be infallible 24/7!!!

[Salvation]

No I rather think he has been misquoted.

I agree here!

[restornu]

there is a doctrinal belief tied to the beings of flesh and bone and not blood..it had something to do with the blood being contaminated..do you know what I am talking about?..(

There are many mainline Christians that believe that blood is very important in many ways the Blood that Jesus shed through each poor for us. And that here on earth we need to renew our vows and to be cleanse, that why we take sacrament. The LDS take the sacrament everyweek except during General Conferance.

Which starts this weekend General Conference starts off with Relief Soceity Sept 28, Sat. @ 8 pm. resumes on Oct.6 Sat. & Oct.7 Sun 2002. time 12pm to 2pm - 4pm to 6pm

[RnMomof7]

rest I tried to listen to some links that UG gave me and my mac will not play them..I think CG is a mac guy so I am flagging him...is there a trick for macs?

BTW my question was really off the sacrament discussion it was more about the resurected bodies..

[restornu]

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Much of it is in the Bible what is it you are referring to?

[RnMomof7]

Awesome I tested it and it worked remind me and I will listen to part of it ok...I do not know why my mac refused the links that UG gave me..

Rest I read an explaination why resurrected bodies have bone and flesh but no blood..I am having a senior moment..can not recall it. I think it had something to do with blood not being clean..

[restornu]

This is all I have and it does talk about blood!

RESURRECTION

BLOOD

[RnMomof7]

Thanks I will see if I can find it again in my travels..it actually may have something to do with the OT ban on Blood..I had not considered that

[Wrigley]

You can't list five things wrong with the chart? If I knew that to be wrong, I'd give you five reasons right now.

[Wrigley]

I thought I had a soft spot in restornu's heart already. Did I miss something?

[Grig]

Geez, 10 posts and the usual suspects show up trying to convert this thread into another debate on LDS doctrine. It's like some kind of mental disorder forces them to keep doing this.

[Grig]

Pope John Lennon? (Imagine there's no heaven....)

[Irisshlass]

Saturday, August 14, 1999

What year are you in?

[Theresa]

"If there are people in hell, they will have made a firm decision to go there."

I agree to a certain extent. If you are a contumacious sinner, you won't want to go to heaven and be with God because you could never appreciate heaven. It would be hell because your soul is not prepared for it. I don't always, in fact, I almost never agree with Hans Kung, but he says hell the place where you never stop contemplating the fact that you have missed the meaning of your life. Something to think about anyway in the sense of how we must not miss the meaning of our lives, which is to know love and serve God on this earth and be happy with him forever in heaven.

[Theresa]

"If there is no heaven or hell, then of what use is the Catholic Church as it stands today? "

Who said there was no hell? How did get THAT out of the article.

[RobbyS]

If you look up "Hell" in the "Catholic Encyclopedia," you will find that the pope represents one body of opinion about a matter that the Church has not defined.

[Irisshlass]

This topic was debated over a year ago and was discovered the Pope's statements were taken out of context...which has been the case before. My question is are you really interested in what the Pope has to say because I can provide many links to what he actually says from his own addresses, speeches and homilies or did you just paste this from your sensationalism page?

[Quester]

See posting #11 for my response to a similar question from St. Chuck.

[God is good]

...the Pope said[Hell], is neither abstraction nor a physical place...

He needs to read the Bible.