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An Index of Catholicism's Decline
Seattle Catholic ^ | December 11, 2002 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 12/11/2002 9:51:32 AM PST by NYer

Thirty-seven years after the end of the only church council of the 20th century, the jury has come in with its verdict: Vatican II appears to have been an unrelieved disaster for Roman Catholicism.

Liars may figure, but figures do not lie. Kenneth C. Jones of St. Louis has pulled together a slim volume of statistics he has titled Index of Leading Catholic Indicators: The Church Since Vatican II.

His findings make prophets of Catholic traditionalists who warned that Vatican II would prove a blunder of historic dimensions, and those same findings expose as foolish and naive those who believed a council could reconcile Catholicism and modernity. When Pope John XXIII threw open the windows of the church, all the poisonous vapors of modernity entered, along with the Devil himself.

Here are Jones' grim statistics of Catholicism's decline:

Though the number of U.S. Catholics has risen by 20 million since 1965, Jones' statistics show that the power of Catholic belief and devotion to the Faith are not nearly what they were.

At the opening of Vatican II, reformers were all the rage. They were going to lead us out of our Catholic ghettos by altering the liturgy, rewriting the Bible and missals, abandoning the old traditions, making us more ecumenical, and engaging the world. And their legacy?

Four decades of devastation wrought upon the church, and the final disgrace of a hierarchy that lacked the moral courage of the Boy Scouts to keep the perverts out of the seminaries, and throw them out of the rectories and schools of Holy Mother Church.

Through the papacy of Pius XII, the church resisted the clamor to accommodate itself to the world and remained a moral beacon to mankind. Since Vatican II, the church has sought to meet the world halfway.

Jones' statistics tell us the price of appeasement.


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; pope; vaticancouncilii

1 posted on 12/11/2002 9:51:40 AM PST by NYer
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To: Siobhan; american colleen; sinkspur; livius; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; ...
The damage is extensive. Worse yet, those of us who still recall the church prior to VCII are shrinking in number.

I believe the Holy Spirit is working diligently now to bring this to an end.

2 posted on 12/11/2002 9:58:15 AM PST by NYer
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To: NYer; ninenot
THere's another thread on the news forum of this article up to, oh, 90 some posts. Some really good stuff has been said.

Thanks, NYer
3 posted on 12/11/2002 9:59:57 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona; NYer
See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/804588/posts
4 posted on 12/11/2002 10:07:39 AM PST by narses
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To: NYer
**The damage is extensive.**

It may be extensive, but it is not irreversable.
5 posted on 12/11/2002 5:16:31 PM PST by Salvation
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To: NYer
another "aint it awful" report from the usual suspects.

Ignoring, of course, the growth of the church outside the US and the revival of Catholicism in many diocese.

6 posted on 12/12/2002 4:27:42 AM PST by LadyDoc
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To: NYer
Thirty-seven years after the end of the only church council of the 20th century, the jury has come in with its verdict: Vatican II appears to have been an unrelieved disaster for Roman Catholicism.

<> Blaming an Ecumenical Council for such things is prot-thought. I expect better from Buchanan<>

7 posted on 12/12/2002 6:09:34 AM PST by Catholicguy
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