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The New World Religion: Teaching God's children to worship "Divine Nature"
http://www.thenewamerican.com/focus/earth_charter/essay.htm ^ | William F. Jasper

Posted on 12/19/2002 7:21:21 AM PST by xzins

The New World Religion
by William F. Jasper

Presented to the world as a mystical revelation, the UN Earth Charter is actually a diabolical blueprint for global government.

My hope is that this charter will be a kind of Ten Commandments, a "Sermon on the Mount," that provides a guide for human behavior toward the environment in the next century and beyond.

— Mikhail Gorbachev

Millions of Americans were justifiably shocked and outraged over the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals’ notorious ruling on the Pledge of Allegiance. "Can our courts really have sunk this low?" people asked. "How can little Johnny and Suzie violate the Constitution by uttering the words ‘under God’ while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in a public school?"

Yet that is what the Court said in its June 26th decision. This ruling was a continuation of an ongoing subversive campaign aimed at expunging all mention of God and all Christian symbols from the public sphere. Judicial activists have ordered our students not to invoke the Almighty’s name in prayer on school property. Posting the Ten Commandments on classroom walls is also supposedly a major no-no. Traditional Christmas carols with religious themes are out, as are Nativity scenes. Christmas and Easter vacations have been de-Christianized to, respectively, winter and spring breaks. Many textbooks have dropped the traditional "Christocentric" dating system of B.C. (Before Christ) and A.D. (Anno Domini, In the Year of Our Lord) in favor of B.C.E. (Before the Common Era) and C.E. (Common Era).

Many Christians concerned about this trend are looking hopefully to the U.S. Supreme Court to reverse the 9th Circuit’s ruling, as it has done with some of that court’s previous radical rulings. Even if that were to happen, developments at the World Summit on Sustainable Development (also known as Earth Summit II) could ultimately undo any Supreme Court reversal. If the Earth Summiteers have their way, Johnny and Suzie will not be able to pledge allegiance to "one nation, under God," but they will be able to pledge to "One World, under Gaia" — that is, Mother Earth. They will not be allowed to have the Ten Commandments or the Holy Bible in class, but could soon be bowing before the pagan "Ark of Hope," reading the "sacred" Temenos Books, and reverently intoning the text of the new UN Earth Charter.

Those decrying the 9th Circuit Court’s harmful decisions will take little comfort in learning that senior 9th Circuit Court Judge J. Clifford Wallace was among the jurists attending the Johannesburg Summit’s Global Judges Symposium. That meeting was hosted by several globalist institutions with a pronounced hostility toward the United States. The participants, which included judges from Communist regimes, pledged to "apply new legal instruments in keeping with the principles of sustainable development," and the international "Rule of Law."

One of the documents designed to advance this process, the long-awaited Earth Charter, was formally unveiled to the world at Johannesburg. Crafted by a conclave of "Wise Persons" headed by former Soviet dictator Mikhail Gorbachev, it is set to become the Holy Writ of the UN’s new "global spirituality." Although the Earth Charter is not a legally binding document, its impact may prove damaging and pervasive. Its benign-sounding verbiage and symbolic nature camouflage its dangerous purpose. The Charter is intended to become a universally adopted creed that will psychologically prepare the world’s children to accept the necessity of world government to save the environment. It is also an outrageous attempt to indoctrinate your children in the UN’s New Age paganism.

The Preamble of the Earth Charter states:

… we are one human family and one Earth community with a common destiny. We must join together to bring forth a sustainable global society founded on respect for nature.... Towards this end, it is imperative that we, the peoples of Earth, declare our responsibility to one another, to the greater community of life, and to future generations.

According to the Charter, humanity must undergo a global "change of mind and heart." And the UN’s all-wise seers visualize themselves as the lead change agents for this global undertaking. The Earth Charter Initiative, however, candidly admits that it intends to recruit your children as change agents, as well. "We seek to increase the participation of young people in utilizing the Earth Charter as a guideline in their work as active agents of change," says the Earth Charter Initiative website. They have been doing precisely that, and will be accelerating their program throughout the world — including in schools in your neighborhood. The U.S. Conference of Mayors is but one of hundreds of organizations, schools, municipalities, and other entities that have signed on as supporters of this declaration of a new "global ethic" for the world.

Blasphemous Symbols

Weeks before the start of Earth Summit II, the Earth Charter arrived in Johannesburg for a series of rituals, celebrations, and promotions aimed at setting the spiritual tone for the global conference. The venerated Charter is housed and transported in the Ark of Hope, a blasphemous mimicry of the biblical Ark of the Covenant, which held the two tablets containing the Ten Commandments that God gave to Moses. The Ark of Hope is actually designed to look like the Ark of the Covenant and its devotees carry it around with worshipful solemnity. Accompanying the Charter and the Ark are the Temenos Books, containing aboriginal Earth Masks and "visual prayers/affirmations for global healing, peace, and gratitude," created by 3,000 artists, teachers, students, and mystics. According to the Temenos Project, which launched the effort, a temenos is "a magical sacred circle where special rules apply and extraordinary events inevitably occur."

The Ark, Charter, and Temenos Books were placed on display at the UN summit site and then put to work building the new global ethic. Day after day, UN acolytes carried the sacred objects from school to school, where tens of thousands of children already had been prepped with Earth Charter propaganda. Public ceremonies with mayors and celebrities augmented the school events.

The summit’s opening day featured a four-hour symposium entitled, "Educating for Sustainable Living with the Earth Charter." Steven Rockefeller, a religion professor and scion of the fabulously wealthy banking family that donated the land for the UN headquarters in New York, was preeminent among the presenters. Professor Rockefeller is also chairman of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Earth Charter International Drafting Committee. According to Rockefeller, the way to go about "building peace on earth" is through the "inclusive, integrated and spiritual approach" of the Earth Charter.

Covering the summit for USA Radio, Cathie Adams told The New American that Rockefeller described the Charter as an effort to incorporate the "wisdom of the world’s religions." Razeena Wagiet, environmental adviser to South Africa’s national minister of education, was one of the presenters who followed Rockefeller to the podium. According to Wagiet, astrologers have foreseen that the world is about to enter a "Golden Age, a New Age, an Age of Aquarius."

Earth Charter Integration

Outlining how the Earth Charter is to be integrated into lifelong education for all, Hans van Ginkel, chairman of the International Association of Universities, told the symposium: "We must mobilize all in education about sustainability; that’s how we meet the next generation." Sixteen million teachers must be trained, he noted, and "the only way to move forward is by integrating the Earth Charter into curriculum."

The Rockefeller-Gorbachev Earth Charter effort is already fast at work on that score. Their website declares:

The Earth Charter values and principles must be taught, contemplated, applied and internalized. To this end, the Earth Charter needs to be incorporated into both formal and non-formal education. This process must involve various communities, continue to integrate the Charter into the curriculum of schools and universities, and constitute an ongoing process of life-long learning.

According to the same website, the Earth Council, UNESCO, and the Earth Charter Initiative folks already have many of the curriculum materials and programs prepared; in fact, they’re already up and running in schools across the globe. Some American schools got an advance start on the rest of humanity with Charter activities, coinciding with the journey last year of the Ark and its contents to the UN in New York. The pilgrimage began in Vermont, where Steven Rockefeller, in his role as dean of religion at Middlebury College, held a sacred Earth ceremony. Joining him and the other worshipers was Jane Goodall, the celebrity chimpanzee expert who has become a fixture at forums sponsored by Mikhail Gorbachev and the UN. The Charter was carried on foot, by car, and by boat, arriving in New York City on November 8th, to be greeted by Pete Seeger, the leftist folksinger. On January 24th, the Ark and Charter were carried in a procession from the Interfaith Center of New York to the United Nations Church Center Chapel, a distance of about 15 blocks.

The Charter’s authors are not shy about the importance of their handiwork. "My hope is that this charter will be a kind of Ten Commandments, a ‘Sermon on the Mount,’ that provides a guide for human behavior toward the environment in the next century and beyond," Gorbachev stated in a 1997 interview with the Los Angeles Times.

Canadian billionaire socialist Maurice Strong, who presided over the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, is somewhat less tentative. "The real goal of the Earth Charter," said Strong, "is that it will in fact become like the Ten Commandments." (Emphasis added.) Mr. Strong had high hopes that the Charter, conceived in 1987, would be adopted by the world at Rio. Alas, there were too many other messianic projects on Gaia’s burners at that confab. Gaia, the Greek goddess of Earth, has become the supreme deity in the green theology of the militant environmentalists.

In his opening address to the Rio summit, Strong directed the world’s attention to the "Declaration of the Sacred Earth," which was part of the pre-Summit ceremonies. "The changes in behavior and direction called for here," said Strong, "must be rooted in our deepest spiritual, moral, and ethical values." According to the declaration, "The [ecological] crisis transcends all national, religious, cultural, social, political and economic boundaries." "The responsibility of each human being today is to choose between the force of darkness and the force of light," Strong exhorted. "We must therefore transform our attitudes and values, and adopt a renewed respect for the superior laws of Divine Nature."

The "Sacred" Text

"The protection of Earth’s vitality, diversity, and beauty is a sacred trust," the Earth Charter asserts. However, "an unprecedented rise in human population has overburdened ecological and social systems. The foundations of global security are threatened." Thus, "we urgently need a shared vision of basic values to provide an ethical foundation for the emerging world community."

According to the Charter, we must:

The Charter includes much, much more. It ends with this stirring exhortation: "In order to build a sustainable global community, the nations of the world must renew their commitment to the United Nations, fulfill their obligations under existing international agreements, and support the implementation of Earth Charter principles with an international legally binding instrument on environment and development."

The Charter will soon be making its way to schools, city governments, state legislatures, teachers organizations, civic groups, professional associations, judges, and law schools. The aforementioned Global Judges Symposium concluded its summit activities by issuing the so-called Johannesburg Principles on the Rule of Law and Sustainable Development. "We recognize," it states, "the importance of ensuring that environmental law and law in the field of sustainable development feature prominently in academic curricula, legal studies and training at all levels, in particular among judges and others engaged in the judicial process."

The judicial symposium was sponsored by the United Nations Environmental Program (largely supported by U.S. tax dollars) and the Environmental Law Institute, one of the principal eco-activist legal groups supported by U.S. tax-exempt foundations.

For the amount of time, effort, and money invested in the Earth Charter program over the past decade, its profile at the recent Johannesburg Earth Summit was remarkably subdued. Apparently, the plan is to orchestrate a global stealth campaign for the Charter among a sympathetic core constituency. As the campaign picks up steam, activists will obtain signatures and public support for this new global ethic from local, state, and national governments, schools, and organizations — without stirring the suspicions and opposition of churches, pro-life, and pro-family forces. Once a critical mass of support has been built among students, teachers, journalists, and public officials, the Charter will appear to be universally accepted and unstoppable.

Americans can make sure that that scheme does not work by informing themselves and their friends and neighbors about this blatantly diabolical and blasphemous deception.

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KEYWORDS: ark; children; democrats; devil; education; gaia; gorbachev; johnbirchsociety; kofiannan; lucifer; lucifertrust; lucistrust; newage; newageism; newamerican; nwo; oneworldorder; pagan; paganism; pantheism; rockefeller; satan; satanism; temenos; thejohnbirchsociety; thenewamerican; tna; un; unitednations; williamfjasper

1 posted on 12/19/2002 7:21:22 AM PST by xzins
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To: fortheDeclaration; winstonchurchill; ShadowAce; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; ...
This is new to me.

What do any of you know about the U.N. Earth Charter?

It seems to be an important read.

Get the U.S. out of the U.N.
2 posted on 12/19/2002 7:23:05 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
This is the new world order. It is all there in the Bible. Too bad no one believes it.
3 posted on 12/19/2002 7:39:36 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: bulldogs
Anything sponsored by Rockefeller and Gorbachev is automatically suspicious.

Communism always was a "world order." I suspect he thinks he's found a back door for achieving what before the Soviet had hoped to achieve through conquest. Being a Fabian Socialist, Rockefeller sees the same thing as Gorbachev. Gradual colonization of people's minds.

It's scary stuff.
4 posted on 12/19/2002 7:42:40 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
I am starting to believe there is an Illuminati. The left wing money guys. . Rockefeller is very bad news. No colonization of my mind is going to happen, and probably not to a few other people like you.
5 posted on 12/19/2002 8:01:58 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: xzins
Rockefeller and Gorbachev are rubes, it is Maurice Strong you need to keep your eye on.

Our Global Neighborhood.

6 posted on 12/19/2002 8:33:47 AM PST by ksen
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To: xzins; Bulldog
Maurice Strong
7 posted on 12/19/2002 8:42:00 AM PST by ksen
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To: Bulldog; bulldogs
Whoops, I pinged the wrong Bulldog to #7.
8 posted on 12/19/2002 8:42:55 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen
He is scarey, isn't he? Wow.

Maurice Strong, a member of the Commission, and a likely candidate for the position of Secretary General, said in an essay entitled Stockholm to Rio: A Journey Down a Generation: "It is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation-states, however powerful. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the imperatives of global environmental cooperation."

9 posted on 12/19/2002 8:44:00 AM PST by xzins
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To: ksen
Thanks for the wrong ping! I read it anyway. Good work. Now check out www.light1998.com. If you really want to scare yourself.
10 posted on 12/19/2002 8:53:01 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: bulldogs
You were the one I meant to ping. ;^)
11 posted on 12/19/2002 9:03:22 AM PST by ksen
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To: xzins
If you really want to shake & quake see this -
http://www.sovereignty.net/p/gov/timeline.html
12 posted on 12/19/2002 9:11:03 AM PST by Telit Likitis
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To: xzins
Yet that is what the Court said in its June 26th decision. This ruling was a continuation of an ongoing subversive campaign aimed at expunging all mention of God and all Christian symbols from the public sphere. Judicial activists have ordered our students not to invoke the Almighty’s name in prayer on school property. Posting the Ten Commandments on classroom walls is also supposedly a major no-no. Traditional Christmas carols with religious themes are out, as are Nativity scenes. Christmas and Easter vacations have been de-Christianized to, respectively, winter and spring breaks. Many textbooks have dropped the traditional "Christocentric" dating system of B.C. (Before Christ) and A.D. (Anno Domini, In the Year of Our Lord) in favor of B.C.E. (Before the Common Era) and C.E. (Common Era).

This is just the tip of the ice berg, imagine how bad things would get if Broom Hillda, or her like kind - ever gets back into the Presidency. There will be two things that they will pry from my cold dead fingers, my gun and my Bible. The first thing the libs will do is revoke tax exemption for Churches, and it will go down hill from there.

13 posted on 12/19/2002 9:33:52 AM PST by WhatNot
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To: xzins
I have been saying for years that the environmental religion has infiltrated Christianity, and much to it's detriment. When have you found anyone, a good Christian or not, condemning recycling? Talking about how there is no environmental crisis? Yes, there are some on the conservative circuit standing up to scientific truth about the environment, but unfortunately most people are so indoctrinated with the garbage of the environmental nazis that they refuse to hear the truth.

Today in every school -- public AND private -- children are indoctrinated with the environmentalist agenda. The environmentalist agenda has come a long way from "Give a hoot, don't pollute" or "Keep America Beautiful." Their agenda seeks to change not only the political order of the world into a socialist order, but seeks to change the Christian world view by placing the Creation ahead of the Creator. Even in the Christian community, children are being indoctrinated about the Earth. They are told God would not be happy with how we have taken care of His planet.

My kids go to a conservative, non-denominational Christian school and even there, the teachers teach environmentalist propaganda filtered through Christian values. The enviro-nazis know what they are doing, and they have a communications plan for everyone. I spoke to the principal of the school, gave books to the teachers, and try and teach my kids the truth, but I am only one. My next door neighbor -- a good Christian Republican -- buys organic food, recycles everything, and a bunch of other things. She's bought into the line.

The whole purpose is to convince people that the earth, and the environmental agenda, is the most important thing. Once people are willing to sort their garbage, and change their lifestyles to accomodate real and imaginary environmental disasters, they will be more willing to have MANDATORY recycling, higher taxes "for the earth", take mass transit, etc., etc.

We should be scared. This socialist world view is working. And we, conservatives, have not only allowed it, but participated in it.

14 posted on 12/19/2002 9:39:35 AM PST by Gophack
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To: xzins
Thanks for the post. These people know EXACTLY what they're doing, and have for more than a century.

The problem is they are not compelled by God, but by a desire to control...and become God.

GALATIANS 4:8-9 "Formerly, when you did not know God, you were in bondage to beings that by nature are no gods; but now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and beggarly elemental spirits, whose slaves you want to be once more?"

Any "elemental spirit" except Christ. They must fear Him mightily.

15 posted on 12/19/2002 9:49:41 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Telit Likitis; xzins
That is a great site. Lots of puzzle pieces.
16 posted on 12/19/2002 9:50:47 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: ksen
I have a feeling I will be seeing you in one of the detainment camps for Christians who will be deemed mentally ill (as we already are in some States) and unfit for society.
17 posted on 12/19/2002 10:02:36 AM PST by JesseShurun
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To: JesseShurun
Save me a seat.....it's sure to get crowded.
18 posted on 12/19/2002 10:21:26 AM PST by ksen
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To: xzins
I believe that National Review did an extensive article on one George Soros, the mysterious leftist Canadian oil zillionaire) a few years ago and made a very good case that he was financing and organizing this scheme, that Gore was involved and even a couple of Roman Catholic Cardinals (and NOT on behalf of the Catholic Church!), that the scheme had to do with the potential for world government inherent in some sappy lowest common denominator pseudo-piety organized around "Mother Earth" that might further sap existing religions to diminish their potential resistance to UN world government schemes. Soros entertains his fellow schemers at a very large ranch in Colorado.
19 posted on 12/19/2002 10:43:22 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: xzins
Get the U.S. out of the U.N.

Amen!

20 posted on 12/19/2002 10:45:55 AM PST by The Grammarian
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To: ksen; xzins
Check out the "Georgia Guidestones" on the net. I bet old Ted "Christianity is for losers" is involved.
21 posted on 12/19/2002 11:12:48 AM PST by JesseShurun
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Albert Pike, Alger Hess, long list. We are the world crowd.
22 posted on 12/19/2002 11:19:27 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: ksen
Save me a seat too! I will be the one wearing the sandwich board!LOL!
23 posted on 12/19/2002 11:26:13 AM PST by bulldogs
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To: xzins
read later
24 posted on 12/19/2002 12:08:33 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: BlackElk
even a couple of Roman Catholic Cardinals (and NOT on behalf of the Catholic Church!),

BlackElk, if these cardinals are rogue operators, then why is the pope so chummy with Gorbachev, the acknowledged figurehead? Before you claim this isn't so, consider these quotes:

In U.S. News and World Report on May 18, 1992, an interesting article was published under the title "Papal Promoter." This report stated, "Pope John Paul II is promoting Mikhail Gorbachev--to be the ideal presiding officer of a United Europe."

Story below: Insight on the News, Nov 18, 1996 v12 n43 p10(2).
Title: Nourishing the soul. (political activities and social policies of Pope John Paul II)(Cover Story)
Author: David Wagner

In a New York Times op-ed published on March 9, 1992, titled "My Partner, the Pope," Gorbachev wrote:
"Now it can be said that everything that took place in Eastern Europe in recent years would have been impossible without the popes efforts and the enormous role, including the political role, he played in the world arena."
This article may have had more to do with Gorbachev's efforts to establish himself as a leader of New Age futurism than with serious Cold War historiography. (The article teems with references to spiritual content," "high spirituality," "consciousness and spirit" and "the worlds religions"; the pope is praised as a great source of energy.")
Cornelia Ferreira:
What clearer sign could we have that the policy of restructuring the Church is working than Gorbachev giving a speech at the Vatican last November------Gorby, an avowed Communist, whose forums feature occultism, who wants to eliminate 90% of the world's population, who is coordinating all the branches of the socialist new world order, and who instigated the policy of restructuring------the chief representative of the Kingdom of Satan on earth addressing the head of God's Kingdom on Earth and the world's political leaders as an honored and wise guest! Gorbachev has met with the Pope at least half a dozen times since 1989, and last year attended the unveiling of Cardinal Casaroli's memoirs.

25 posted on 12/19/2002 2:34:35 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: BlackElk
Just in case you might be tempted to challenge the authors of my first group of quotes, I found an AP news release which basically says the same thing:


27 June 2000

VATICAN CITY (AP) - He sat between two clerics, quoted the pope and helped plug a book recounting a cardinal's battle against church repression in the Soviet bloc.

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's poll ratings are sagging at home, but he has become a popular figure at the Vatican after forging a friendship with Pope John Paul II.

Gorbachev sat on a dais Tuesday along with two cardinals, the Italian foreign minister and the president of the European Union's commission to promote the book "The Martyrdom of Patience," the memoirs of Cardinal Agostino Casaroli.

Casaroli, who died in 1998, was considered an architect of the Vatican policy that helped the church survive in Eastern Europe during the Cold War.

Gorbachev called Casaroli "a great personality," recalling their meeting in Moscow to help prepare Gorbachev's historic visit to the Vatican in 1989, the first by a leader of the Soviet Communist party. Gorbachev has met with the pope at least a half dozen times since.

26 posted on 12/19/2002 2:44:08 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
Why do you suppose I would be challenging your quotemakers? I know David Wagner personally and knew him before he converted and I would be flabbergasted if he were other that a very strong supporter of JP II. I do not know who Ms. Ferreira may be but she does seem a bit hysterical. I don't find much significance in the fact that Gorby has visited the Vatican six times in ten years.

If the suggestion is that the pope is a secret ally of Gorbachev in seeking to establish at least a neo-Soviet Europe under a wine-stain dictatorship and thereby facilitate the elimination of 90% of Europe's population, it is not those authors who are the problem but, yeah, I would tend to disagree. Do you find that you are having too much time on your hands? Just asking?

Even if I don't always agree with you, you are certainly a much more pleasant fellow than most with whom I might disagree. Your posts here are a tad eccentric.

27 posted on 12/19/2002 3:46:24 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: xzins
http://getusout.org/earthcharter/index.htm
28 posted on 12/19/2002 8:07:36 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Maximilian; BlackElk; RobbyS; Francisco; american colleen; Desdemona
I would be so very interested in knowing who the two cardinals sitting on either side of Gorbachev happened to be. I think it might be quite telling.

There was an interesting thread in the religious section posted by Francisco,on the 17th,entitled "Corpses in the Vatican". It was over wordy and patched and parsed and repetitious.However,the point was,there still remained questions about the murder/suicide of the Swiss Guards that occurred in the late 90's. I was hoping it would lead to a good discussion that would shed more light on this present scandal,which I look at as an oppurtunity for bringing forth that springtime of Christianity that the Pope has been predicting. Of course the thread deteriorated into the usual p*ssing contest.

The one statement that I thought needed thought and light was about two groups,within the Curia poised against another,but I wasn't sure who was what. I was unsuccessful in drawing anyone in but Robbys,who did well,but still no discussion on that little piece of "truth".

I hope you all will go back to that thread and see if what I said makes any sense.

BTW That night I heard a replay of an interview that Art Bell had with Malachai Martin in 1997,(I know,and I'm blushing}.The remarkable thing about it was that Martin mentioned the "pedophilia" in the Church in Boston. He went on to say that it was probably brought over with the folks on the Mayflower,or in some way indicated it did not have its roots in the Catholic Church. Very interesting,I've been grousing about the roots for a while.

I asked Ultima Ratio to listen,he was on line,I thought,because I wanted someone to hear him but I guess Ultima thinks I am such a Knee Jerk Papal Loyalist that I was trying to lead him into a trap or something. Anyway I felt bad and wish somebody had listened. Hope somebody will take a look,I feel so sorry for the Pope beset by so many enemies. I think he may have gotten blindsided by thinking that an enemy of his enemy was his friend. (Or, more likely a "group of enemies" blah,blah)

We who love the Church and know it contains all truth need to learn how to work together better,there is no good reason that so much devolves,after we save the Church then we can argue but things are far too critical in the U.S. as well as the world to spend time on things that are out of our hands right now. What is in our hands is cleaning up this scandal and the evil bishops,the shmoozer bishops and the abuser priests and making sure it doesn't happen again.

29 posted on 12/19/2002 11:00:31 PM PST by saradippity
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To: xzins
This ruling was a continuation of an ongoing subversive campaign aimed at expunging all mention of God and all Christian symbols from the public sphere.

Rainbow triangles may be removed from classroom doors (IL) Guess they let some things in school rooms. Here is a quote from the article:

Slone said the symbol is a "piece of plastic on a window" that does not affect the daily operations of most students.

30 posted on 12/20/2002 12:44:40 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Something tells me their intent isn't to remove God from all the text, but instead counterfeit and substitute a false God as the new object of devotion.
31 posted on 12/20/2002 5:57:50 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: xzins
...The Earth Charter values and principles must be taught, contemplated, applied and internalized. To this end, the Earth Charter needs to be incorporated into both formal and non-formal education. This process must involve various communities, continue to integrate the Charter into the curriculum of schools and universities, and constitute an ongoing process of life-long learning.

Reads as though a study of these issues and placing them into context of Scripture to redirect those being taught back to God, might be a fruitful endeavor.

32 posted on 12/20/2002 6:02:20 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: bulldogs
Methinks most people have been so scarred in their souls by modern culture that they associate these things in carnal terms rather than from a perspective of holiness. Accordingly, associating these reports with the end times seems farfetched in carnal terms.

In carnal terms, they may be right, but in spiritually discerned issues, these reports well describe a Satanic cosmic counterfeit system to God's will.

33 posted on 12/20/2002 6:53:28 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: xzins
BTT
34 posted on 12/20/2002 2:08:28 PM PST by Cvengr
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It's a good point. Use the positives in their awareness of God's beautiful creation (although they don't attribute it to God) to talk to them about Jesus.

Take whatever door is open.
35 posted on 12/20/2002 2:10:59 PM PST by xzins
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36 posted on 02/10/2007 7:07:03 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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2002!


37 posted on 02/10/2007 7:56:30 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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my, how time flies.


38 posted on 02/11/2007 10:37:16 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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when you're having such fun


39 posted on 02/11/2007 10:43:50 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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And where are Richard Dawkins and all those atheists who are so loud whenever Biblical religion is being suggested? Uh-huh. "Science" and "rationalism" have nothing to say about new age nature worship, because the "enlightenment" worshiped both "reason" and "nature."

Not that I'm a big fan of the John Birch Society's New American, whose official theology is post-millenial chr*stian reconstructionism (note the attack on "de-chr*stianization" when Jews and Noachides use "CE" and "BCE" to avoid being implicated in idolatry).

40 posted on 02/11/2007 10:49:54 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ("Kol 'asher-dibber HaShem na`seh venishma`!")
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Communism always was a "world order."

Well, it was for a long time, but a look at the contemporary Left shows that they are into mystical nationalism up to "wazoo." They worship "indigenous" cultures who claim to have literally emerged from their "sacred motherlands" and hate the United States precisely because it's an "artificial" nation. They also always seem to defend "national sovereignty" whenever it applies to Cuba or South Korea (or Saudi Arabia, for that matter).

I wonder if at some point the globalism of the Left will run into the anti-globalist mystical nationalism of the Left? It would be fun to watch.

41 posted on 02/11/2007 10:55:20 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ("Kol 'asher-dibber HaShem na`seh venishma`!")
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