I Have Weathered Other Storms
TFP Commission on American Issues
Paperback - 182 pp. 20 illustrations (Paperback)
Western Hemisphere Cultural Society, (December 13, 2002);
ISBN: 1881008-04-5
$12.95
Posted on 12/30/2002 7:59:23 AM PST by Salvation
With the Catholic Church mired in sexual-abuse scandals, the American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property (TFP) is now releasing a book that shows Catholics how they can react to the climate of intense emotion and confusion that warps the debate and hinders a true solution to the crisis.
The book, I Have Weathered Other Storms: A Response to the Scandals and Democratic Reforms that Threaten the Catholic Church, is the work of the TFP’s Committee on American Issues which put together the research and observations. It is published by the Pennsylvania-based Western Hemisphere Cultural Society.
In announcing the publication, TFP Vice President Thomas McKenna noted that the 192-page book furnishes a much needed perspective.
“The book is not a report but a response,” Mr. McKenna affirms. “It is an arsenal of Church doctrines and teachings and a veritable broadside against those who would use this crisis to promote reforms that contradicts Church teaching.”
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Some topics discussed in I Have Weathered Other Storms include: And much, much more. |
See why Fr. John Trigilio called this book “an erudite, succinct and accurate diagnosis of the current sex scandal climate in Catholic America.”
Both practical and theological, I Have Weathered Other Storms is a key to understanding and responding to one of the worst crisis in American Catholic history.
I Have Weathered Other Storms
TFP Commission on American Issues
Paperback - 182 pp. 20 illustrations (Paperback)
Western Hemisphere Cultural Society, (December 13, 2002);
ISBN: 1881008-04-5
$12.95
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I Have Weathered Other Storms: A Response to the Scandals and Democratic Reforms that Threaten the Catholic Church
I happened to catch Fr. Corapi doing his weekly 1 hour segment on the Catechism (EWTN Sunday night @ 8pm). Last night's topic was Baptism and Confirmation. He stressed that we are ALL (protestant and catholic) members of the same church, the church founded by Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Son of God and since He founded only one church, we, along with our protestant brethren are members of the same family.
There are HUNDREDS of reputable Christian Catholic sources for defenses of the faith. Don't give one pennny to these creeps
If one desires to purchase the book, buy it from another outfit<>
By A. Gerard Nordskoven
Watching a Catholic community autodestruct is wrenching. The Society for Tradition, Family & Property, or TFP, is eating Kansas City alive. It is a scenario played out all over the world. TFP is an all-male secret society promoting a "higher" calling than the priesthood, the warrior-monk. TFP is a cold-blooded vocation killer. Not one priest has arisen from their "conservative" formation of young men anywhere in its international ranks since its founding in the early sixties. None. One of TFP's slickest Screwtapes has been a woman, Marian Horvat. Horvat, president of the TFP's California offshoot, Tradition in Action, distinguished herself as one of four collaborating signatories to "We Resist You to the Face," a manifesto for Catholic schism. Before that, Horvat's duties were in the heartland, and more along the line of "We Stab You in the Back" with the quiet destruction of the faithful. She's a "nice girl", well-spoken and polite. And she gave TFP and their ideas entré into nice families. The Catholic scholars at her alma mater, K.U., saw through the Horvat family obsession with TFP and rejected their overtures to infiltrate the Integrated Humanities Program, a veritable incubator for clerics and other religious. Others have not been so discerning. Pious boys exploring their calling have hardened into caustic snobs who are taught by TFP recruiters to despise their parents as "the fountain of my revolution."
The simplest mystery of Judeo-Christianity is election. Yet it is almost unfathomable that the Most High chooses to grace souls and peoples for reasons unknown to man. The antithesis of election, indeed a tenet of Babylonian Mystery Religions (as is secrecy), is elitism. This is man exalting himself above other men. We were warned. The Lord reviled the people's desire for a king to rule over them, and told of their inevitable exploitation. Hindu elitism is writ in the squalor of a rigid caste system. The unholy marriage of elitism and Catholicity was fabricated in TFP founder Plinio's book, The Nobility and Traditional Elites. It was offered for sale after the Latin Mass approved by the KCMO Bishop. $50.00 was the penance exacted for presuming to be a noble, elite Catholic. But the young salesmen were friends of Marian, glowingly praised in the tome. And she was smart, a K.U. teaching assistant who hammered a journalism degree into a doctorate in Medieval History.
Few read the lavishly illustrated book, consigning it to the coffee table. In Nobility, the race and blood cults condemned by Piux XII are resurrected in his own words, spin doctored to fit TFP's agenda. Pius XII's flattering pleas to the nobility of Italy for funds to feed the starving during World War II are transformed into support for TFP's militant monarchists. Published two years before Plinio's death, Marian Horvat garnered high honors from the author for her assistance. That's saying a lot. Plinio Correa de Oliveira was a self-styled demigod, described reflexively in a TFP litany to his mother, Dona Lucilia, as the "Axiological Principle," or First Cause, a divinity. That's the secret side of TFP. In Plinio's book, the elite are defined as bluebloods, and as "professors" like himself and Marian. It is a predatory philosophy of NON SERVIAM, like the fictional spaceman's cookbook, "How to Serve Man." Horvat's brother adds information for the American audience. The elite of America were the Southern slaveholder in general, and genetic marvels like Robert E. Lee in specific. Here is the race and blood cult American-style.
Priests do not fit into the TFP schema. They serve. They are poor. They don't rule countries. The colorful "scroll" centerfold in Nobility proclaims "the preferential option for the nobility." John Paul II's "preferential option for the poor" is directly contradicted. That's refreshing. There can be no question whose side they are on. The schismatic heraldry of "We Resist You to the Face" was just a flourish on a split with the Servant of Servants started years before. TFP disdains the priesthood, predicting it's obsolescence. No priests, no Eucharist. Wormwood, be advised. Horvat's crocodile tears for lost vocations as inspiring "We Resist You to the Face" are hypocritical. Styling herself a latter day Joan of Arc, Horvat is a free agent serving only demigod Plinio and the Ten Kings of the Antichrist with no regard for prelates unless they are useful as camouflage for TFP, or Tradition in Action, or the America Needs Fatima cash cow. Radical materialism is the name of the game and another hallmark of Babylonian Mystery Religions. That's the philosophical basis for Communism, so it is no surprise that K.U.'s long-time campus Communist converted to Horvat's brand of Catholicism. One gets all the exploitation without any of the guilt. The poor are solicited by mail for a dollar a day, and the wealthy get quietly approached for donations of homes, large sums of money, and farms, not to mention the entrustment of children. Horvat guided the formation of young women in her home-school Sodality, and the children of "traditional" Catholics in other educational venues.
Marian Horvat is an apt pupil of TFP's techniques, and ingratiates herself to the wealthy, well-educated and powerful only. Peasants are the enemy, and perhaps too reminiscent of her blue-collar background. Catholic scholars cotton to her, and she sailed her pirate ship under their colors whenever possible. Alice Von Hildebrand was shamefully used in discussions aired on EWTN. She slipped one over on the elderly philosopher by dropping Plinio's name into the mix. EWTN got wind of it and axed the "Feminity and Feminism" series. But this virago is far from feminine. Horvat's favorite ploy for testing the mettle of protegés at the family compound was to invite them over and release their snapping, snarling German Shephards. Some left, some signed on to continue undermining the Catholic community in her stead. Horvat came razor close to imposing a TFP school on Kansas City residents under the banner of a conservative Catholic education. The monied Texas woman Horvat talked into bankrolling the venture got wind of her unseemly connections and mercifully withdrew.
Watch for this coiling snake of Babylonian cast, and beg the Blessed Virgin to have bare feet ready to crush its head. Postcards may be found in the back of church from "America Needs Fatima." One response and it is virtually impossible to be free from TFP's dunning direct mail solicitation. And the Boys from Brazil are very appealing as they march like Medieval militants in their red capes, inserting themselves at the head of pro-life rallies, or setting up bookstalls at Catholic conferences, usually without permission. They are spoiling for a fight, and it is not with the forces of evil for which they claim they need lots of cash. It is with the Magisterium, in that they are already condemned by the Brazilian bishops conference, their home country. It is with Peter, as "We Resist You to the Face" obsequiously declares. It is with God, as blithely breaking the first command to honor no false gods. That's Plinio, who did not arise from the dead as he prophesied of himself. And do watch out for nice girls in pearls ,p> .-----Opinion piece (c) A. Gerard Nordskoven, 2001. All Rights Reserved.
<> We have our part to play in keeping one another informed. Hovath and Atila Guimaeres (Remnant writers and TFP members/promoters) are both public opponents of the Pope and signed the infamous "We resist you to your face" screed<>
<>Presumably, your Local Ordinary hasn't warned you about the danger of using a bandsaw to trim your split ends....some things we just have to figure out ourselves:)<>
Interesting.
According to Fr. Corapi: "The pope is the head of one wing (the Catholic wing) of Christ's Church."
Are any Catholics who claim to "the one true Church" blaspheming God (and His true protestant/catholic Church)?
Next weeks episode in on The Eucharist. He has such a command of language and expression. These segments run every Sunday on EWTN @ 8pm. Try to catch a few if you can. Tonight is Journey Home with Marcus Grodi .. also at 8pm.
TFP is more than a little strange. I've seen them in Latin America and Spain, where they appear on main streets from time to time. They are always represented by a group of men who appear to have their ties tied too tight, beating drums and marching around with their banners. It's not really an edifying sight, unfortunately.
It may well be that some persons within TFP are schismatics or Integralists. If so, I rebuke them and reject their prideful beliefs. But I see no conflict between being a Catholic right-winger and monarchist and being a loyal follower of His Holiness. I do not "resist him to his face"; I believe him to be an infallible teacher of Truth by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit in matters of faith and morals. That infallibility does not extend to political matters, however, and I sometimes suspect that His Holiness' loving heart and personal experiences under the Nazi and Communist tyrannies predispose him to suspicion towards authoritarian political ideas. Would Generalissimo Francisco Franco and General Augustin Pinochet (who arguably did more for the Church in the 20th Century than anyone outside of the Church or the religious orders) get the same respect from the current leadership of the Church as they did during their own time? I have to admit that I doubt it. The Vatican (and the West) are still too enraptured with democracy and "freedom" to give any real respect to Western traditions of order and responsibility that the authoritarian Right champions. Perhaps this will change as the new millenium gets underway.
The article you printed was kind of confusing though... could you explain exactly how they are against the Holy Father and their movement is wolves in sheep clothing...
In Him through Mary,
Athanasius
Yes, I am familiar with the Society for Tradition, Family, and Property (TFP for short). It is not specifically recognized by the Church, and should be approached with extreme caution because they tend toward a kind of "radical traditionalism," that is, trying to be "more Catholic than the Pope." - Dr. Carroll
Here's hoping that the SSPXers and Integralist factions can come together and leaven the Church with a renewed respect for tradition, family, and property without deviating from obedience to the Holy Father. Together we could all unite into a mighty force that could roll back the inroads the Modernists, feminists, syncretists, and assorted New-Agers and Kum-Bah-Yahwists have made since the '60s. As our parish priest said with a chuckle last week, "The Age of Aquarius can't go on forever."
OTOH--whatever is directly cited from Church documents (and is not mis-used in the citation) certainly cannot be bad for you.I cannot tell you how many times I have seen people strip mine quotes and use them to claim the direct opposite of what the author really meant. Even the devil can quote. Where he to do so directly from Church documents I would still reject his writings out of hand.
patent +AMDG
<> Tradition, Family, Property is a nutball outfit. I wouldn't touch any of their stuff..TFP is spiritually radioactive. There are HUNDREDS of reputable Christian Catholic sources for defenses of the faith. Don't give one pennny to these creeps If one desires to purchase the book, buy it from another outfit<>I agree.
patent +AMDG
My first contact with the TFP outfit was after they insinuated themselves into the "traditionalist" movement via "The Remnant" when that schismatic propaganda organ started publishing Marian Hovath and Atila Guimaeres. I read Guimaeres (I never do spell his name correctly I'm afraid)work attacking the Pope and Vatican Two and through that was introduced to O.P. and the book you referenced. Guimaeres claims he was mentored by O.P. If true, that is enough for me to not waste time reading Revolution and Counterrevolution.
Guimaeres' signed "We resist you to the face." (as did Hovath), that weird statement that pledges the signatories will refuse obedience to the Pope. Now, that is "traditionalism," but it is the Tradition of Protestantism.
As far as the Social Teachings of the Church, I don't think Atila has a clue to what they mean. I am serious.
If I want to read views of Revolution and Counter Revolution, I try and get my hands on anything written by Joseph de Maistre
But, there are many on these threads - Patent, Romulus, Sitetest, Wide Awake, St Chuck, Eastsider, Polycarp, Ninenot (I apologise for leaving any off his list)- far beter read than I am who could give other suggestions<>
The Rule of St. Benedict is quite democratic and even includes a conscience clause ( I prolly shouldn't be doing this from memory. I haven't read The Rule in a long time). I read St. Robert Bellarmine on Democracy. I became interested in Catholic Social Doctrine as written by the Popes themselves - not interpreted by partisans of either extreme - and these Catholic writings made me less dogmatic re political structures
However, the TFP'ers I have heard about give me the creeps.(Guimaeres and Hovath) Because I used to get all the schismatic periodicals, I am still on mailing lists and so I recieve "Tradition in Action" bulletins trying to sell their books etc. There is no doubt much they write, reason and think would resonate harmoniously with Catholicism - it is the poison of political extremism that corrupts the honey of solid social doctrine that I find horrifying.
I really do think them dangerous - especially during this epoch of cultural desuetude - but I am not intellectually equipped to confront them analytically. Mine is more a Sensus Catholicus position. I know they are wrong. My Spiritual antennae tell me to avoid them at all costs<>
This may or may not wind up being "the group," but they might well be a part of the movement....
It's been my contention for years that 'if you thought the hard Left was bad, wait until you see the hard Right in action.'
It may well arise in politics, nationwide, as well as in the Church.
As far as the Church's social teaching is concerned, the encyclicals of Pope Leo XIII should be read and reread. Most of what passes for 'social teaching' among professional theologians in the past 100 years has been either an attempt to reconcile Leo XIII's essentially Thomistic teaching to "progressive social democracy" or an outright rejection of Leo for the Marxist project known as "liberation theology".
Although I was never a monarchist, I sympathize with some of the arguments brought by advocates of monarchy. But the virtues of monarchy are identical with the virtues of the American Republic as originally conceived: that is, a society where property owners make decisions about how to undertake corporate action. The fundamental reason why the Founding Fathers separated from England is that they were excluded, as property owners, from legislative decisions that affected their property holdings.
I would recommend for anyone on this thread's reading list a book entitled Democracy - The God That Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. It is effectively the most rigorous defense I have ever seen, by either a Catholic or a non-Catholic, of the principle of subsidiarity - the true core of Catholic social teaching.
Amazing.
As a subscriber to the ideals of Catholic monarchism, I believe I fall within your definition of a "hard rightist". As such, I obviously disagree. Let's compare and contrast the actual performance of "hard Left" and "hard Right" regimes in the light of actual history. Under which regime did the Church prosper more: the democratically-elected hard-left Republican government of Spain, or the authoritarian hard-Right Franco regime? Was Christ and His Church honored more under Chile's democratically-elected Salvador Allende, or the military dictatorship of Gen. Augustin Pinochet? Who persecuted the Church more: the corrupt Bourbons or the democratically-elected leaders of the Republic? Garibadi's republican redshirts or Mussolini's fascist blackshirts? Right-wing gangster Batista or left-wing gangster Castro?
Pagan monstrosities like Adolf Hitler aside, I think the historical record is clear: hard-right regimes (whatever their other faults) are in general tolerant or benevolent towards the Church, while left-wing regimes are almost always fiercely opposed to Her. "The devil always knows the right address."
Are you familiar with the speeches and essays of Juan Donoso Cortes?
As to Subsidiarity, Solidarity,The Common Good, Property etc, I think far too few Catholics have read "Ethics and the National Economy" by Fr. Heinrich Pesch, S.J. He was a genius and he coined "solidarity," "subsidiarity" and "economism" etc and he, as I recall, wrote major portions of Rerum Novarum.
The book is only about 120 pages and it is a precis of key ideas from his mounumental work - I guess it is an enormous Opus that is being translated by Rupert Ederer (of "Culture Wars" fame).
That is a book I wish everyone would read this new year<>
In all the historical cases you cite - Spain, Chile, Italy, Cuba - the opponent of each government was naked, Soviet-style Communism.
And I do not agree that Mussolini's regime was either rightist or friendly to the Church. Mussolini was essentially a nationalist syndicalist, just as Stalin was a nationalist Communist and Hitler was a nationalist socialist (with extreme anti-Semitic paranoia).
All of Mussolini's intiatives were leftist and the Treaty of the Lateran shows the contempt in which he held the Church. Mussolini was an extreme anticlerical who barely tolerated the Church.
Through my flirtation with the schism, I was exposed to some EXCELLENT source material; and folks like de Maistre, Cortes, Fr. Pesch, The Liturgical Year by Dom Gueranger, The Catechism of Perseverance by the incomparable Abbe Gaume etc. etc.
There is a lot of honey in the schism, but the poison of disunity renders the schism lethal.<>
So the schismatics are in schism from the effective schism of much of the hierarchy - a metaschism, if you will.
I don't really blame them for being upset, angry and militant. I do blame them for being prideful enough to separate. They would do a lot more good inside the Church than out.
As far as slavery goes, in Brazil outright slavery developed into a form of serfdom and then gradually into free labor by the 1880s.
Many people, not just TFP, feel that a gradual transition on the Brazilian model would have been preferable to a fratricidal war that killed 600,000 people. I can't say they don't have a point.
Same here. I've seen them every year at the March for Life in DC. Their noisy and overbearing presence reeks of arrogance. As a result, they always struck me (as a Catholic, a pro-lifer and an American) as distinctly alien.
Wideawake got me to thinking about some of the books I have read - even the Cortes one that I read and had forgotten how darned good it was - and it made me desire that others read some of the same material.
Mebbe, the Catholic Caucus could compile a list of books each would recommend to others. I'd sure be interested in what others would recommend.<>
I like to read, and I was wondering if this list you are proposing is referring to books in general or are you speaking of Catholic writings. If it is about books in general I would be interested in recommendations, and short synopsis'. It's hard to find good books just as it is hard to find good movies now a days. I have re-read what I consider good books now so many times I am tired of them, but most generally when I try a recently published book, on on a best seller list, I am very disappointed. So much so, and so many times now, that I don't even try anymore.
Becky
I will say that "Sometimes a Great Notion" had an extremely powerful effect on me. It was written by Ken Kesey, better known for "One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest." The first 80 or so pages of the book are a little difficult but it is a book I always recommend to others.
When I go to Maine in the Summer, I try to re-read some of our American Classics. Last year it was "The Scarler Letter." Amasing.....<>
Becky
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