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Rome's Chief Exorcist Warns Parents Against Harry Potter
LifeSite News ^ | Jan 2, 2002 | Fr. Gabriel Amorth

Posted on 02/04/2003 10:32:00 AM PST by Maximilian

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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
To summarize my opinion which has been pretty well documented on this thread;

1) I agree that Harry Potter is fantasy;

2) I believe that Rowling uses true occult and witchcraft ideas in her books which can and have proven to increase a child's interest in the occult and witchcraft;

3) Witchcraft and everything surrounding it are works of the devil, i.e. there is no such thing as "white magic";

4) The Potter books are aimed at YOUNG children (8-13) who are less likely to be well versed or grounded in their Christian faith (and many not even taught anything about God from their parents who may be agnostics, etc.) and these children are very suspectible to "magic";

5) There are blatant anti-Christian messages in the books, which are getting darker with each publication.

6) Aside from religion, Harry Potter is a bad role model: he lies, cheats, steals and is never punished for these actions because he does them "for good" or to simply not get in trouble.

7) Parents should decide, of course, what is appropriate for their children to read, to watch on tv, etc. but they should be fully aware of the dangers of Potter and the FACT that interest in the occult and witchcraft have gone up DRAMATICALLY among young people since Potter first came out. This alone should spark concern among Christian parents.

8) Finally, LOTR and the Narnia tales, while fantasy, have the right moral order. Potter has a reverse moral order.

Hope that helps and God bless!

81 posted on 02/05/2003 12:17:21 PM PST by Gophack
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To: ninenot
Have made it clear to my children that witchcraft is a product of Satan.

Make sure your kids know which way is North, or which way is Rome--and they will generally be just fine.

Zackly. There are no ouiji boards, tarot cards, dream interpretation books or anything like that in my house. There is a crucifix in almost every room, saint cards galore and rosaries everywhere. I have several different bibles (probably 5 or 6), at least 100 different books on Catholicism, biographies of saints falling off the shelves, history, social commentary, tons of kids books, it's like a library here!

My son doesn't care about Harry Potter and my daughter knows fantasy and she knows God. She's a good kid of 14 who read all of the Potter series and who just did an in-depth report about abortion for her English class. Before she did her presentation and hand-out, most of the kids were pro-choice. Now, most of them are pro-life. She's also the kid that most of the other kids want to be friends with because she is kind and loving and makes no distinction between the popular kids and the not so popular kids. She goes to Mass every week because she wants to go and quite often her friends go with her because she is going - not because their parents take them.

Ya can't raise your kids in a vacuum.

82 posted on 02/05/2003 1:24:05 PM PST by american colleen (Christe Eleison!)
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To: american colleen
Did you let the pastor and bishop know about the lesbian altar girls?
83 posted on 02/05/2003 3:17:16 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I don't think they are "real" lesbians...from what I understand it is experimentation - prevalent in the schools - around here, anyway. I suspect in a lot of other places as well, but I am lucky in that my daughter and her friends are fairly candid (I think) with me about what goes on. Some don't tell their own parents, but they end up telling one other mother and myself.

I did tell the "pastoral associate" nun, without naming names. I asked her if we could address the issue in a Catholic context at the youth group meetings. She told me she wants nothing controversial (read overtly Catholic), she envisions an inclusive yg (all religions) and the big lessons the kids need to learn is that 1. Jesus loves them, and 2. social awareness - they are lucky to have been given so much and they need to give back to society. I no longer help out with the (failed) yg and the nun really doesn't talk much to me over this issue and also that I called her on her leadership role in the local VOTF group and told her I wouldn't give Boston College a penny of my money (her alma mater) as it is no longer worthy of the Catholic name.

Our parish priest is much like this nun and one of the last things he said to me (before he started to avoid me) is that we should pull away from Rome because they don't understand us. My bishop is Cardinal Law.

It's pretty lonely around here!

84 posted on 02/05/2003 3:29:19 PM PST by american colleen (Christe Eleison!)
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To: Maximilian
Harry Potter or no, a lot of kids turn into little "witches" anyway, at about that age. Curling up with an absorbing book will prevent them from casting their real spells.

85 posted on 02/05/2003 7:47:27 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: sinkspur
I heartily recommend Michael O' Brien's "Father Elijah". If you like well written political intrigue, you might enjoy it, although you might take offense at the orthodox pope's speech to the evil cardinal.
86 posted on 02/05/2003 7:52:10 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: Lloyd Grey
ping
87 posted on 02/05/2003 8:02:49 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ; -)
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To: Aquinasfan
great listen, thanks
88 posted on 02/05/2003 8:14:08 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: american colleen
I agree with your points. Also, stories about witches, werewolves etc are a traditional form of European entertainment. In France, such tales used to be sometimes collated and written down by priests, especially those in rural parishes. In this work, the French priests were among the first folklorists.
89 posted on 02/05/2003 8:21:13 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: american colleen
Well, Law is no longer the bishop and I have never accepted the "experimentation" rationale that some use to explain their behavior. Seems pretty black and white, like pregnancy. The fact is even if they were "experimenting" with heterosexual behavior, they don't belong on the altar. I'd still complain to the new bishop and the pastor, in writing.
90 posted on 02/06/2003 2:19:49 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Cvengr
great listen, thanks

I'm glad there are people who volunteer for this work. Holding people down in levitating chairs doesn't appeal to me very much...

91 posted on 02/06/2003 5:56:12 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Gophack
Thanks for the reply, and I agree with every point:)

Becky

92 posted on 02/06/2003 6:13:59 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Aquinasfan
Thanks for the bump, Aquinasfan.

The more I read about theosophy, the clearer its objectives become.

They like to start young.

93 posted on 02/06/2003 6:23:00 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Aquinasfan
I'm glad there are people who volunteer for this work. Holding people down in levitating chairs doesn't appeal to me very much...

Just as there are many different animals in the zoo,

and many different cultures among men,

and a gradation of personalities amongst those who aren't saved, but are considered 'humane',...

I've sometimes wondered how many people might actually be possessed,

who don't exhibit the extreme behavior depicted in the exorcist, but are nevertheless possessed.

94 posted on 02/07/2003 6:02:44 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: sinkspur
Yes, some contributors to this thread clearly long for the Index of Forbidden Books. Ugh.
95 posted on 02/15/2003 8:00:17 PM PST by Hibernius Druid (Perseverantia Vincit!)
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To: american colleen

ok I understand the findings of sacrilegious imagery in the hp books. I understand how children under, say, 14, cannot discern for themselves the wrongful actions of a hero figure setting a poor example at different times. I get how man’s reliance on the higher power is upheld in LOTR and Narnia, and it is wrongful when man trusts/pursues magical powers. But I just don’t get how it can be said that the Harry Potter books are all about power, when, despite the setting in a magical world, no matter how deeply one peels off the layers, it is still basically about how the central character is forced to defend himself against evil. How he is pursued, victimized, finds himself in all sorts of situations he doesn’t quite know how to handle, but ultimately is always trying just to stay alive, defend defenseless others, and never succumb to ultimate evil. He is even abused, victimized as a defenseless child, you would expect his humanization to have depraved considerably through his treatment and familial example, yet most of his main choices are on the side of compassion, gut instinct to defend, help, and sacrifice himself to protect others. Yes,he finds himself in situations he doesn’t handle perfectly, but without evil intent (where I can see how an adult’s perception of this character would be accurate vs. that of an impressionable child). But, where is this quest for power?—Harry never went looking for trouble—it found him.


96 posted on 12/19/2007 9:41:53 AM PST by hurriedMom (j)
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