Life After Death or Soul Sleep? (Soul Sleep: heresy or error?)

OmegaGeneration ^

[drstevej]

Jesse, you push the envelope? No way, you're so docile. Nobody could object to your posts! Could they?

[JesseShurun]

I've been a modicom of propriety

[drstevej]

If you do push the edge, do it in Hebrew.

[JesseShurun]

Calm seas never produce able seamen.

- African Proverb.

[drstevej]

***He [xzins] shall be missed.***

I know he will be lurking. I have heard he may even channel a message or two through CCWoody.

Question, Is Woody responsible for channeling Xzins comments?
A second, can Xzins be banned by proxy?

Stay tuned....

[Wrigley]

After the day I just had, I don't need deep thoughts.

Now, I'll be pondering that question all evening.

[drstevej]

Did you see the Elvis picture I emailed you?

[Wrigley]

Oh, yeah.

I'm waiting for the perfect thread.

Check your email.

[computerjunkie]

Whew! Glad to see you're still here!!

[Wrigley]

Had one of those long days.

If I go out, you'll know. :-)

[CCWoody]

Yes indeed I am the official medium for channeling xzins. He wants us to know that he taunts us from the outer darkness.

And he wants Sola Fide to know that only an intolerant Christian believes in Sola Fide.

And he wants Wrigley to know that the expression "And the Cubs win the World Series" has recently been discovered as a long lost prophecy of JS. He doesn't know exactly what this means, but he suspects it can't be good.

And he wants Jesse to know that he is grateful to be out of the land of Zamzummim.

And he doesn't know what this means, but he just has this vision of a fat elvis in a skin tight suit shaking somebody'hand with steve looking on. He thinks its wierd.

[drstevej]

ROTFL.

You're ARE the chosen channel for the Xzin-master!

[Wrigley]

Darn it. Since I know JS is a false prophet, I'll have another hopeless year. :-(

[computerjunkie]

"Channel" to xzins that I will miss his "Methodist" perspective on things since I have a lot of Methodist relatives and until he came along, I was never sure WHAT they believed!!!

[DouglasKC]

It is certain from the above that the word SLEEP is used as a euphemism at that time. It is used as such by Jesus and others.

Why is it so certain? After all the disciples didn't seem to be familiar with the term as a euphemism:

Joh 11:11 These were the things he said. Then after this he told them, "Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I am leaving to wake him up."
Joh 11:12 So the disciples said to him, "Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will get well."
Joh 11:13 Jesus, however, had been speaking about his death, but they thought that he was speaking about resting or sleeping.
Joh 11:14 Then Jesus told them plainly, "Lazarus has died.

Today if we said "He's in his final resting place", we'd know it was a euphemism. But if someone said "He's asleep", we would think just what the disciples did...well then wake him up!

I think Jesus uses the language he did to draw a clear comparision between sleep and death. Both are states of unconsciousness that are followed by consciousness.

Another thing about the Lazarus story:

Joh 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Martha is under the impression that he won't rise again until the last day. Jesus doesn't disagree. Why doesn't Jesus just say "He's alive and in heaven now." Why doesn't Jesus feel compelled to tell Martha that Lazarus is watching her from above or whatever?

[DouglasKC]

Alas, xzins is no more. He withdrew from FR and asked that his account be deleted.

Well that sucks. Why did he want to leave?

[Revelation 911]

And he doesn't know what this means, but he just has this vision of a fat elvis in a skin tight suit shaking somebody'hand with steve looking on. He thinks its wierd.

hows the weather guys?

[CCWoody]

I'll pass it along. Wait..... I'm feeling a burning.... opening a channel to the outer darkness:

[xzins channeling through Woody]: I feel so liberated out here. I taunts you again! I have a message for you: "Never discuss religion with those who are so ignorant they don't subscribe to your beliefs."