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How Homosexuals Are Changing the Church
Mission America ^ | Lynda Harvey

Posted on 05/03/2003 11:46:25 AM PDT by GrandMoM

How Homosexuals Are Changing the Church

More than sexual issues are involved...

by Linda P. Harvey

Questioning biblical authority, radical feminism, inclusive language, values clarification....all become part of the package as mainline churches buy into homosexuality. Where is this leading the body of Christ?

It was fall 1993. Classes at Trinity Lutheran Seminary in Columbus, Ohio, had been in session for only a few weeks, and new students were just getting immersed in their study of the foundations of Christian faith at this preeminent institution of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA). An eclectic group were these scholars: some young, many middle-aged, some married with families. There were a number of women, most there on the divinity track, eager to pastor a church one day in this new era of women's equality.

I was a new student, not pursuing an M.Div., but a masters in theology. I had trouble with the idea of a woman pastoring a church, but I couldn't put my finger on why. I don't believe that the apostle Paul really meant for women never to teach, just that women should not, in most cases, lead congregations. But since I fancy myself something of a modern woman, I thought that perhaps there was a perspective I had yet to learn. I did not, therefore, disapprove of these women initially. They were just different than I.

Nor did I feel biased against the two female professors who taught my courses. My theology professor was a quiet woman, married to a minister. The professor of Old Testament studies was more difficult initially to get a fix on. Gradually over the weeks, however, my suspicions began to grow-- she wore a wedding ring, but was single and lived with another woman (I visited her home once with a group of students). She wore her hair very short except for one long strand down the back. And her "spin" on biblical matters was less than traditional. I soon became convinced that she was, in violation of the ELCA regulations for ordained ministers, a practicing lesbian.

Nor was she alone, according to the seminary grapevine. And the schoolwide sympathy for homosexuality quickly became apparent.

In my introductory theology course, one class period early in the quarter convened in the cafeteria. As all the students stood, the professor read statements about current moral problems, and we were to "respond" by moving to the right wall if we agreed, or to the left if we disagreed. "Health care is a basic right," was one issue, and "Capital punishment is never justified" was another. Then came the zinger.

"Homosexuality is a sin," she read. Out of the forty students in class, I and three others moved to the right wall, indicating that we agreed. The rest of the class moved quickly to the left, some flattening themselves against the wall for emphasis!

"But Scripture Doesn't Say That!"

From that day on, I never felt like I was in step with the seminary. It was as if my eyes had been opened, and what I saw and heard in this "Christian" institution was hard at times to believe.

One day I met several other students for lunch in the cafeteria, and one of them chose to sit at a large table with the professor of my Old Testament course. She was sitting with an older student whom I recognized, a fellow who, with his effeminate mannerisms and flamboyant dress, had always appeared as if he might be homosexual. She and he greeted us, but returned to a hushed,very engrossed conversation. He was plainly agitated. It seems he had been on a visitation of some sort with a local congregation, who had evidently voiced their opposition to homosexuality. He was very upset by comments that had been made.

"And one guy said,' God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve,' " the student was telling my professor, who was shaking her head and clucking in sympathy. I just looked down and ate my lunch--I was clearly alone in my beliefs in this place.

In October, the Old Testament course covered Genesis 19, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. As she lectured about the events, our professor made it clear that "this passage is not an indictment of homosexuality, but of rape." The problem here could be compared to the incident in Judges 19 and 20, she claimed, and was related to the poor treatment of strangers, which was a great sin in early cultures. Even though there are obvious differences in the two tales, I did not have the courage, I am ashamed to say, to contradict her. No one else in my class did either, of the few who may have disagreed.

In complete inner turmoil over the events that were taking place, I asked around about the sympathies of the other faculty. Were they all willing to accept homosexuality this easily? Oh, no, I was told--there were still a number of faculty who held to biblical truth, who believed Scripture is clearly in opposition to acts of homosexuality. It was at about this time that the national ELCA report on human sexuality surfaced, making national headlines with its recommendation that the Lutheran Church reconsider its position on homosexuality and premarital sex. It was all the talk at the school--mostly in support of the recommendations.

I had heard of one Trinity faculty member who had written in opposition to the ELCA sexuality report, a nationally-renowned professor of New Testament studies. I made an appointment with him, and asked him to explain where the seminary, the Lutheran Church and he stood on this matter.

The professor told me that the faculty were divided on the issue of ordination of practicing homosexuals. I told him of my suspicions about several faculty. He didn't confirm or deny the rumors, but he explained that if a minister confessed to homosexual temptation, but had officially sworn to be celibate, there was really little the church could do except take the pastor's word.

He also outlined some of the other major Scriptural disputes surrounding the issue. One is the "new view" of Sodom and Gomorrah, which basically looks at the context of the time, sees similarities between that and the Judges' passage, and comes to the conclusions that the "sins" were those of extremely "inhospitable" behavior, including rape!

"But that's not what Scripture says!" I was quick to respond.The traditional understanding of the Sodom account has been that it involved forbidden sexual acts, namely homosexuality--hence the root of the word "sodomy," among other indicators. He explained how undaunted new interpreters of Scripture are by protests that appeal to biblical tradition and apparent meaning.

God, Our "Father-Mother"?

But the sexuality debate was only the tip of the revisionist iceberg at Trinity, as I was quick to discover. For under the clear leadership of ordained lesbians, most mainline churches are reconfiguring traditional references to God as Father toward a more "inclusive" image that includes, or does not seem to exclude, women. And at Trinity, these forces were influential and formidable.

Required reading in both my theology and Old Testament courses was the book Inclusive Language in the Church by Nancy A.Hardesty. An inclusive language policy had been enacted several years before at Trinity, which I read upon entering, but didn't grasp until I saw it in action. Evidently, reading this book was supposed to sufficiently indoctrinate students into what turned out to be a radical departure from orthodoxy.

The inclusive language policy stated, among other things, that references to God should not use only the masculine, as this "limits our understanding of God." Instead, "there are many opportunities in worship, classroom, and conversation where feminine and gender-free language can broaden our understanding of God." (Emphasis added)

What did this really mean? When I was called on in the Old Testament class to answer a question, I began by saying, "Well, I think God was trying to teach Abraham something. He was trying..." At which point my instructor, jumped in.

"He WHO?" she quizzed me.

Me, stupidly (not yet getting it): "Uh, God. He was trying to ..."

"He WHO?" said the professor again.

At which point light dawned in my brain. I stopped, and said quietly, "God."

"Thank you," she said. "Don't forget about the inclusive language policy here."

Once again, I had the creepy sensation of being, not in a seminary, but in a concentration camp. This same Orwellian scenario was played out with several other students and with me two other times as well, since in the midst of talking, I would "forget" to speak correctly and need to be reminded. The last time, it came as a warning, that "grades would be affected" unless we students learned to refrain from referring to God as Father, He , Him or using any masculine designation.

At the daily chapel, I began to notice something that hadn't occurred to me earlier--we never heard the masculine reference as part of the liturgy or in any of the Scripture readings. The gospel of John, which is so heavily laden with Jesus' words about God as Father, was never to my recollection used. I soon stopped going to chapel.

There came an opportunity to express my opinion in mid-November. At this point, the Inclusive Language book by Hardesty came up for discussion in the Old Testament class. In a small group format, I expressed my dismay with both the book and the policy.

First, a little background about this book. The author takes a fundamental tenet of Christian faith-- that all are equal in the eyes of God-- and, recalling our human sins through the centuries (mostly, in her view, patriarchal), tries to justify tampering with Scripture as a vehicle to right past and presumed future wrongs. This is like saying that, because the Ku Klux Klan has at times used Scripture to justify its actions, we should take whatever biblical passages they used and toss them aside, or alter them, so this can't happen again. It's the thought and language police in its most virulent form--adhering to a philosophy that utilizes revisionist history as an appropriate tool for solving social problems. These are the same folks who are busy "re-imagining God", deluding themselves that this is not idolatry.

So Hardesty in her book promotes inclusive language in the church by saying, "...An effort to use more inclusive language makes us aware not only of our sexism, but also of our racism, elitism, nationalism, classism,ageism, homophobia, and all our other prejudices." (p. 15--emphasis added) Do we see clearly where the impetus for this, as well as many other destructive trends in the church, is coming from? When I read this book, I felt quite differently about the "effort to use more inclusive language". It immediately made me more aware of the hatred of white males and the paranoid heterophobia that is so plainly at the bottom of this assault on the integrity of Scripture.

I was not this outspoken in our class, but I did say that I felt Hardesty had some personal grudges she was working out. The problem, I said, was that just because some women have felt that the language of Scripture excluded them, this doesn't apply to all women. I have never felt that way, for example. And besides, we can't go changing Scripture just because we feel like it, or because men in this world have not lived up to the example of Christ.

No one's trying to change Scripture, I was told. Yet that's not true. The biblical translation used in most classes at the seminary was the NRSV (New Revised Standard Version) or one similar, altered substantially for inclusive language.

And, as I pointed out in class, the practical result of the inclusive language policy is that it causes some passages to be avoided because of their unalterable language. What does one do, for example, with the Lord's prayer-- the words of Christ Himself? "Our Father" are the opening words--how can this be revised by any Christian teacher of conscience? Or what happens to the recurring image of Christ as the bridegroom, and the Church as His bride? One can't get much more "sex-role stereotyped" than this. Yet it is one of the most beautiful, spiritually revealing, and prophetic concepts in the Christian faith.

The other students, and my professor, looked at me as if I just didn't understand--I was so obviously "unenlightened." Yet they either have not thought through the ultimate consequences of the road they are on, or, as is more probable, they don't care-- the agenda is just too important. After this encounter, I feel sure of where this trend is leading. Eventually certain portions of the canon of Scripture will either be altered so as to be unrecognizable, or will be discarded as being too"exclusive."

"Peace, Peace, When There is No Peace"

Under the pretense of being inclusive, loving, peace-seeking, these academics are being self-indulgent, oppressive, and intellectually corrupt. It is apparent, for example, that often these "tolerant" Christians have cared little to do any real research into the homosexual lifestyle-- what it is they are tolerating for fellow human beings. Whatever happened to being one's brother's keeper? But more importantly, whatever happened to the authority of God?

It's not recognizable at Trinity Lutheran Seminary in any consistent form. What is in authority there, as in many mainline seminaries, is clear: they have "exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen." (Romans 1:25 NKJV)

I came to the end of the first quarter and had some big decisions to make. My grades were fine--in fact, the course work was not as difficult as I expected. But would I try to stick it out just to get the degree, knowing that along the way, I might pick up some dangerous untruths? Should I try to change things? Would I ever have a chance of being heard? I prayed and sought God's counsel. I even registered for the second quarter, trying to put a positive face on matters. But just days before the beginning of the next quarter, I felt the answer clearly from the Lord. He has given each of us a precious resource--time--and he does not want us to spend it learning how to construct our own religion, including new gods.

So, in spite of the few faculty who remain there, trying to swim upstream, who will I believe be blessed for their brave efforts-- I withdrew from the seminary. I have since encountered others who did the same. All of us who care about the future of the Church must pray fervently for these institutions, which are training future leaders in doctrines that may lead our faith--and individuals as well--into great spiritual darkness.

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"I will praise you with my whole heart;...For You have magnified Your word above Your name." (Psalm 138:1,2 NKJV)

"My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment." (James 3:1 NKJV)

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; feministtheology
This is the first time I have posted a Religion thread, so I am not sure if most/some will be interested in this topic. My apologizes to those I may offend. I know this article is about 10 years old, which sparks my interest because I wonder how deeply rooted it has become in our Churches since?
1 posted on 05/03/2003 11:46:25 AM PDT by GrandMoM
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To: GrandMoM
Great post. It applies as much today as 10 years ago.
2 posted on 05/03/2003 1:23:54 PM PDT by Gamecock (5 SOLAS)
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To: Gamecock
Great post. It applies as much today as 10 years ago.

Thanks for the reply, I thought it did too!

3 posted on 05/03/2003 1:32:10 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: GrandMoM; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
Thanks for the post. I wonder, is this happening in Catholic seminaries?
4 posted on 05/03/2003 1:40:28 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: narses
I wonder, is this happening in Catholic seminaries?....while I was teaching CRE to junior highes I was told not to discuss homosexualism.
5 posted on 05/03/2003 1:49:26 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: Gamecock; GrandMoM; RnMomof7; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Mark17; He Rides A White Horse; logos; lambo
Probably more today.

Those who pursue a form of godliness that denies to power of God are clearly the anti-church. Since Satan must counterfeit all that Christ has done, it makes sense that he would have his own 'body' of followers. Woe to these deceivers who would perpetuate the original lie - 'hast God said?'......

6 posted on 05/03/2003 1:53:21 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: GrandMoM
This is a very good post. It tells a story, and one which is true. Were it only the AELC which suffers this affliction!!
7 posted on 05/03/2003 4:08:30 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: narses
Doooohhhhh!!!

Because I am a shameless repetitor, the following:

The abominable, destructive and horrible things that have been done to the Roman Catholic Mass over the last 40 years were done largely at the direction of (or with the tacit permission of) a group of homosexuals, led by Abp. Bugnini in Rome and Abp. Weakland of Milwaukee.

The product speaks volumes about the producers and testifies mightily to the Congregation of Doctrine's definition of homosexuality as a "Grave Disorder."

Dis-ordered (and un-repentant) minds produce dis-ordered product.

Another fine example of a disordered mind is that of Picasso. The example of the repentant, of course, is Tschaikovsky.

It's fairly clear.
8 posted on 05/03/2003 4:13:30 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: anniegetyourgun
Those who pursue a form of godliness that denies to power of God are clearly the anti-church. Since Satan must counterfeit all that Christ has done, it makes sense that he would have his own 'body' of followers. Woe to these deceivers who would perpetuate the original lie - 'hast God said?'......

That is the most profound thing I've seen on FR this week! (and there have been some good ones)

9 posted on 05/03/2003 4:14:06 PM PDT by Gamecock (5 SOLAS)
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To: anniegetyourgun
I would take your phrase "power of God" and substitute "order of God," (aka 'right order.) Both, of course, are true--but "order" puts the logical step between the anti-nomians here and God, there, I think.

Besides, it gives us Catholics the opportunity to talk about Natural Law.
10 posted on 05/03/2003 4:15:54 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: GrandMoM
"Finally, we will in all likelihood want to expunge a number of passages from your Scriptures and rewrite others, eliminating preferential treatment of marriage and using words that will allow for homosexual interpretations of passages describing biblical lovers such as Ruth and Boaz or Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Warning: If all these things do not come to pass quickly, we will subject Orthodox Jews and Christians to the most sustained hatred and vilification in recent memory. We have captured the liberal establishment and the press. We have already beaten you on a number of battlefields. ... You have neither the faith nor the strength to fight us, so you might as well surrender now." http://www.inoohr.org/manifestos.htm

From another post on FR, today.

11 posted on 05/03/2003 4:24:40 PM PDT by ninenot
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To: Gamecock
There is an alternative to all this foolishness. Please, at your leisure and convience give this a read.

Click on

12 posted on 05/03/2003 4:26:38 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
Well, that is one solution, another being orthodox Protestant Churches. (I know, I know, that sounds like a contradiction, but hear me out on this one.)

You got LCMS, OPC, RPC, PCA, and many I'm that I am not mentioning. We would be martyred on the alter of political correctness before this would happen in our Churches!
13 posted on 05/03/2003 4:39:26 PM PDT by Gamecock (5 SOLAS)
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To: ninenot
Better yet, I should simply have quoted the Word more directly. ("Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." 2 Tim. 3:5) That way I make myself clear in such matters - that is to say, in all things I am a Berean, and not here to argue church dogma or polity.
14 posted on 05/03/2003 5:17:21 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: GrandMoM
It is a great post. It is an important one also . . . I was shocked into this by a situation at my son's baccalaureate excercise when the prayer was offered up "in the name of the mother, the daughter, and the Holy Spirit.!" I never wanted to get out of a place so fast!! But I wrote to the school and got the standard "gender incluseness" BS.

You might be interested to look into something known as the Danvers Statement, a well written response to the apostasy that seems to be permiating even our seminaries.

Also, read II Timothy 4:3-4 (I guess God expects even this.)
15 posted on 05/03/2003 5:24:37 PM PDT by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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To: Gamecock
Could be a good solution! What are those that you mention? (I'm not familiar with those acronyms.)
16 posted on 05/03/2003 5:26:43 PM PDT by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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To: June Cleaver
What are those that you mention?

As the young folks say: my bad!

LCMS=Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod
OPC=Orthodox Presbyterian Church (I admire these guys)
RPC=Reformed Presbyterian Church
PCA=Presbyterian Church in America (That's what my family is. We are one of the fastest growing churches in America, because we hold true to the word of God)

There are numnerous small Protestant denominations holding true to their historical roots. These are just a small example.

17 posted on 05/03/2003 5:47:56 PM PDT by Gamecock (5 SOLAS)
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To: June Cleaver
(I guess God expects even this.) ....God knows everything, way before we do!

....I can remember my mother telling me that when I was very very young!

18 posted on 05/03/2003 6:07:21 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: GrandMoM
If churches would structure their authority/heirachy as God has layed out in the Bible then this wouoldn't be a problem.
19 posted on 05/03/2003 7:37:06 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: ninenot
homosexuals want to recreate god in thier homosexual image.
20 posted on 05/03/2003 7:48:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: PFKEY
No, as long as man is involved, sin is just around the corner. No denomination regardless of it's structure, has a perfect record.
21 posted on 05/03/2003 7:52:28 PM PDT by Gamecock (5 SOLAS)
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To: Gamecock
True enough on the perfect record part but homosexuality would not get the inroads it has if churches followed the Bible.
22 posted on 05/03/2003 8:09:23 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
Could you be more specific as to the form of church government you are refering? I am aware of at least three types that people claim can be found in the Scripture...
23 posted on 05/03/2003 8:23:35 PM PDT by Gamecock (5 SOLAS)
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To: Gamecock
Sure, the structure of the local congregation. Elders and decons.
24 posted on 05/03/2003 8:26:03 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: GrandMoM
Christos Voskrese!

Yet they either have not thought through the ultimate consequences of the road they are on, or, as is more probable, they don't care-- the agenda is just too important.

Unfortuanately, still a timely post. The author states the problem in a nutshell. Prayer and fasting are needed to get rid of these demons.

25 posted on 05/03/2003 9:22:24 PM PDT by TotusTuus ( Voistinu Voskrese!)
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To: GrandMoM
"My apologizes to those I may offend."

The only ones this will offend are those who need it.
26 posted on 05/04/2003 7:40:20 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: longtermmemmory
Or at least get hold of the church's funds.
27 posted on 05/04/2003 7:47:19 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: June Cleaver
"The Mother, the Daughter, and the Holy Spirit" is a bit much to swallow.
28 posted on 05/04/2003 10:17:08 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz
Especially given the fact that Christ Jesus was a man, and that He Himself referred to YHWH as "Our Father". One cannot be Christian and deny this, for to claim otherwise is to deny the infallibility of the Holy Gospels.
29 posted on 05/06/2003 5:18:09 PM PDT by Citizen of the United States (Honi soit qui mal y pense)
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To: Citizen of the United States
I should add, of course, that the very word "God" is masculine by definition. It necessitates masculine pronouns, as anything else is nothing short of wilful bastardisation of the English language.
30 posted on 05/06/2003 6:23:42 PM PDT by Citizen of the United States (Honi soit qui mal y pense)
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