Gay priests of Diocese A-J in revolt; demand Bishop conceal molesters, sue Catholic activists

Written press release mailed to diocesan bishop, priests, media outlets of Diocese of Altoona-Johnst | 5/15/03 | Priests Federation of Altoona-Johnstown

[Jorge]

I'm sorry if I have offended you.
While I believe those in authority in the Catholic Church should remove pedophile priests from positions of authority I believe homosexuals such as yourself should have the basic civil rights as all Americans.

But I will be praying for your deliverance.

[Cvengr]

I agree that homosexuals in America should have the same basic civil rights as others in America,....the right to be incarcerated for their heinous behavior and assault upon the institution of marriage, natural law, and equal rights of law abiding citizens.

God Bless Polycarp in his efforts to maintain a righteous policy within the Church leadership.

[Jorge]

I agree that homosexuals in America should have the same basic civil rights as others in America,....the right to be incarcerated for their heinous behavior and assault upon the institution of marriage, natural law, and equal rights of law abiding citizens.

God Bless Polycarp in his efforts to maintain a righteous policy within the Church leadership.

So I guess you also believe adulters, fornicators and all those who have sex outside of marriage should be stoned and/or incarcerated for their immoral behavior...unless of course you have no problem with... and bless the sort of homophobic hypocrisy we've seen by some on these boards.

[drstevej]

*** I believe homosexuals such as yourself should have the basic civil rights as all Americans.***

I consider this comment over the line.

[Cvengr]

Yes, people who violate the sanctity of marriage and destroy a marriage between a man and woman which was sworn before God are in violation of that covenant.

They also violate the righteous Spirit.

There is nothing wrong in a nation enforcing Divine will.

Most importantly all persons of that group fail to meet the criterion to be leaders (deacons, elders, pastors, priests) in the Church. Not everybody is qualified to be in senior positions in the Church. Admitting an avowed, unrepentant homosexual into Church leadership is similar to advancing a murderer into the same position. Both are inappropriate.

[Cvengr]

You're correct, My sarcasm was inappropriate. There is no 'right' to commit sodomy.

[Jorge]

*** I believe homosexuals such as yourself should have the basic civil rights as all Americans.*** I consider this comment over the line.

Whether you consider it over the line or not, the fact is most Americans believe homosexuals SHOULD have the same basic civil rights we all have...when if comes to housing, employement etc.
Fair is fair.

[Land of the Irish]

Go slither back under your rock, Whore'ge.

[drstevej]

What was over the line was calling Black Elk a homosexual. Is this a fact or did you bear false witness?

[Jorge]

Go slither back under your rock, Whore'ge.

Thank you for your contribution to this dialogue.
But if you think a juvenile name-calling will force me to agree with pro-homosexual pedophile priests in the Church..then you better think again. Not in THIS "land".

[Jorge]

You'll have to ask Black Elk. If I am wrong I apologize.

[drstevej]

I you do not know you are right, you are wrong to make an accusation.

[Land of the Irish]

But if you think a juvenile name-calling

You called Black Elk a homosexual; that's not only juvenile it's libel and slander. In the real world, falsely being accused of being a homosexual is an extreme insult. In your world, I'm not sure what it is.

[Jorge]

Hey...I've been called all kinds of things for criticizing the Church for their protecting homosexual pedophile priests....by this same poster.

If he is not a homosexual apologist then he needs to come clean.....but meanwhile I can make the assumption that "birds of feather flock together".

[Cvengr]

Should murderers have the same civil rights as those who are law abiding?

[Jorge]

What is this? The attack of the Pink Poodles?
Lighten up. I don't care about your or Black Elsie's sexual preferences....it's none of my business.
Stop whining!

[Jorge]

Should murderers have the same civil rights as those who are law abiding?

No. Murderers forfeit their rights.

But most people don't believe adulters and homosexuals who commit their acts with other consenting adults should be treated as murderers.

[Land of the Irish]

I don't care about your or Black Elsie's sexual preferences....it's none of my business.

But you do care that the homo's get their sexual preferences and civil sinful rights.

[Cvengr]

Perhaps most people don't in a corrupt society. How about the spouses of the influenced marriages who have their lives destroyed by the adulterous affair?

Does an outside majority overule the most intimate possible human commitment? Do we simply ignore the most fundamental aspects of human instincts and instead commit ourselves to promoting and condoning lust of others over sincere commitment to social agreements?

Marriage is a far more fundamental instinct dealt with in equitable terms than sexual lust.

[Cvengr]

But most people don't believe adulters and homosexuals who commit their acts with other consenting adults should be treated as murderers.

Ask a divorcee how they felt after they found out their spouse had been cheating on them for several years. Ask the children of a cheating spouse how they felt about their parent and that parent's behavior. Ask the family members, close and removed how they felt about a homosexual who intruded into their family and influenced their family member to leave the family.

The majority of the people directly involved hate the behavior and if they fail to act, only do so believing the adulterous or homosexual member of the family had already divorced themselves from the family anyways.

Inaction to homosexuality and adultery generally assumes the behavior is limited to simply one other person, but this is the greatest fallacy of sexual lust. It knows no bounds.