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Denver 30-May 1-Jun Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception

Hartford 6-Jun 15-Jun Knights of Columbus Museum

La Crosse 21-Jun 22-Jun Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe

Springfield, IL 28-Jun 29-Jun Diocesan Jubilee, State Fairgrounds

Sacramento 4-Jul 6-Jul Our Lady of Guadalupe Church

Chicago 25-Jul 26-Jul Our Lady of Tepeyac Church

Gary 27-Jul 28-Jul St. Stanislaus Church

Washington DC 9-Aug 9-Aug National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception

New Orleans 30-Aug 31-Aug St. Patrick Church

Detroit 15-Aug 16-Aug TBA

Grand Rapids 17-Aug 17-Aug Shrine of St. Francis Xavier and Our Lady

Dallas 14-Sep 16-Sep Cathedral of Our Lady of Guadalupe

Palm Beach 10-Oct 12-Oct Cathedral of St. Ignatius Loyola

Phoenix/Tucson 31-Oct 2-Nov TBA

Salt Lake 5-Nov 9-Nov St. Juan Diego High School

New York 5-Dec 7-Dec Cathedral of St. Patrick

1 posted on 05/23/2003 11:58:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Tilma of Tepeyac Tour
2 posted on 05/23/2003 11:59:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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This article prompted me to search the Internet for pictures and articles.

I found articles in which it was claimed that scientific methods had demonstrated that the image was not produced using paints or pigments, among other things.

And I found sites attempting to "debunk" this miracle, claiming that this scientific test or that showed it was a painted image, and setting forth several different claims as to its non-miraculous origin. These latter claims all involved deliberate fraud on the part of the Clergy.

There seem to be similar sites "debunking" everything from Fatima to Lourdes.

How in the world can a person get to the bottom of things like this? I know that miracles occur, but I'm not comfortable dismissing these purported debunkings without debunking them.
3 posted on 05/24/2003 6:17:12 AM PDT by dsc
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I didn't know we had this relic in Los Angeles. Any idea where it's normally kept?
4 posted on 05/24/2003 11:02:04 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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5 posted on 05/24/2003 12:43:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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7 posted on 12/12/2006 9:57:38 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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American Catholic’s Saint of the Day


December 12, 2006
Our Lady of Guadalupe

The feast in honor of Our Lady of Guadalupe goes back to the sixteenth century. Chronicles of that period tell us the story.

A poor Indian named Cuauhtlatohuac was baptized and given the name Juan Diego. He was a 57-year-old widower and lived in a small village near Mexico City. On Saturday morning, December 9, 1531, he was on his way to a nearby barrio to attend Mass in honor of Our Lady.

He was walking by a hill called Tepeyac when he heard beautiful music like the warbling of birds. A radiant cloud appeared and within it a young Native American maiden dressed like an Aztec princess. The lady spoke to him in his own language and sent him to the bishop of Mexico, a Franciscan named Juan de Zumarraga. The bishop was to build a chapel in the place where the lady appeared.

Eventually the bishop told Juan Diego to have the lady give him a sign. About this same time Juan Diego’s uncle became seriously ill. This led poor Diego to try to avoid the lady. The lady found Diego, nevertheless, assured him that his uncle would recover and provided roses for Juan to carry to the bishop in his cape or tilma.

When Juan Diego opened his tilma in the bishop’s presence, the roses fell to the ground and the bishop sank to his knees. On Juan Diego’s tilma appeared an image of Mary as she had appeared at the hill of Tepeyac. It was December 12, 1531.


Mary's appearance to Juan Diego as one of his people is a powerful reminder that Mary and the God who sent her accept all peoples. In the context of the sometimes rude and cruel treatment of the Indians by the Spaniards, the apparition was a rebuke to the Spaniards and an event of vast significance for Native Americans. While a number of them had converted before this incident, they now came in droves. According to a contemporary chronicler, nine million Indians became Catholic in a very short time. In these days when we hear so much about God's preferential option for the poor, Our Lady of Guadalupe cries out to us that God's love for and identification with the poor is an age-old truth that stems from the Gospel itself.


Mary to Juan Diego: “My dearest son, I am the eternal Virgin Mary, Mother of the true God, Author of Life, Creator of all and Lord of the Heavens and of the Earth...and it is my desire that a church be built here in this place for me, where, as your most merciful Mother and that of all your people, I may show my loving clemency and the compassion that I bear to the Indians, and to those who love and seek me...” (from an ancient chronicle).

8 posted on 12/12/2006 9:57:46 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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