Regrets I did not mention you as a member of the Permanent Committee for the Revival of Torquemada. Next time, if my memory holds up.
I saw the O'R piece and now have read the item.
Frankly, I don't think O'R has any sources worth a tinker's damn in Rome. That sorta goes along with O'R's virtually total ignorance of Catholicism, despite his claim to BE one.
If you have not converted to Catholicism, this is STILL none of your impertinent business as an anti-Catholic buttinski with a lengthy track record. When you become Catholic and start paying the resultant bills of the coverup artists, maybe, just maybe, your opinion will have some minimal relevance.
Your shouting response to my rather benign statement is way over the top.
Sorry for the shout. The post was meant as humor.
"in the time-honored fashion of the USArmy: every 10th person in a long line"
Actually, the practice of decimation comes down to us from antiquity. I don't think the US military has ever used it even for minor punishments.
You were not in BCT with me. Of course, it was not punishment--it was KP. But you get the idea.
"Rarely is the fact that 80% of the abuse cases involved homosexual priests preying on teenage boys."
I've read higher figures than that. Where'd you read 80%?
Top of my head, I don't remember which columnists it was, but I have read figures ranging from 90% to 98%.
I do remember reading one of those figures on JewishWorldReview, and I believe the others I got from WorldNetDaily.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PRIESTS ABUSE,
AND WHOM DO THEY VICTIMIZE?
Overview:
Sexual abuse of youths and children in the U.S. by Roman Catholic priests has been quietly discussed for decades. A series of books on the topic was published during the 1990s, and continues today. But it was only in early 2002 that a moral panic surfaced, alleging widespread child and youth sexual abuse by priests. The little data that is available seems to indicate that the abusers represent a very small percentage of the total priesthood. Further, very few of those priests who do abuse are actually pedophiles, as the media often reports. Rather they are hebephiles -- adult priests with a homosexual or bisexual orientation, and who are also sexually attracted to post-pubertal males. Their victims are teenage males who are under the age of 18.
It is important to keep in mind that the vast majority of priests, with a heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual orientation, do not molest or sexually abuse young people.
What the media often says, compared with reality:
During the first few months of 2002, revelations of pedophelia, ephebophilia and hebephilia among some priests in the Roman Catholic church spread like wildfire across the U.S. The media gave the impression that:
Most of the abusing priests were pedophiles -- molesting little children. Actually, most of the criminal acts were by hebephiles -- engaging in sexual activity with post-pubertal, 13 to 17 year old young men.
That many priests abuse children. Actually, there is general agreement that only a few percentage of the clergy abuse; much more than 90% of the Roman Catholic clergy are either celibate or discretely engage in sexual behavior with other adults.
A massive amount of abuse is now going on in the Roman Catholic church. The data that appears in the media often reflects allegations of abuse which have accumulated over the past forty years. The number of cases involving allegations of recent abuse will be a small fraction of the total that is now being reported.
Priests abuse at a per-capita rate that is much greater than for the general population. This is probably true, even if for no other reason that all Roman Catholic priests are currently male, and adult males have a much higher abuse rate than females.
The percentage of Roman Catholic priests who abuse children and youths is much greater than for other Christian and non-Christian religious leaders (gurus, imams, ministers, pastors, priests, priestesses, rabbis, etc.). This may or may not be true. No reliable data exists. Even as media articles in the first few months of 2002 highlighted abuse by priests within the Catholic Church, a former Episcopal priest was convicted of molesting a 14-year-old boy, a Baptist pastor from South Carolina was starting a 60 year prison center for molesting 23 children, another Baptist pastor was dismissed from his church in upstate New York over allegations of abuse, a pastor in DeKalb, GA, was found guilty of 25 charges of molestation of a male teen-aged church member, and an Orthodox rabbi was about to go on trial for groping two teenage girls.
What percentage of Roman Catholic priests abuse young people?
Nobody really knows.
Nobody even knows how many adults in general sexually abuse youth and adults. A figure of 2% is often mentioned. However this is really just a guess.
Frederick S. Berlin is the director of the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma, and a widely published author on sexual disorders. He stated in an interview: "There is no good data either from the general population or from the priesthood about numbers of pedophiles or people who have a vulnerability that increases their risk to children. The issue of sexuality, particularly of people who may have unusual kinds of sexual cravings, has been one that society has tended to sweep under the carpet. Getting that data is terribly important, but as of now I know of no systematic surveys that would allow us to come to any firm conclusions." 1
The Rev. Thomas Doyle, a priest and canonical lawyer said that "The bishops have resisted attempts to do studies on this, and the Vatican is death on any empirical, scientific study on the celibacy or sexuality of the priesthood." 2
The Rev. Stephen Rossetti, is a priest and psychologist who has specialized in this area. He has suggested that the records of church counseling centers would contain a great deal of information that would help shine light on abuse by priests. Centers such as St. Luke's Institute in Silver Spring MD; St. Michael's Paraclete Center outside St. Louis, MO; St. John Vianney Center in Downingtown, PA.; the Institute of Living in Hartford, CT; and Southdown Hospital near Toronto, ON Canada treat hundreds of priests for various psychological problems. However, the church has refused to conduct such a study. 14
Rev. James J. Gill is a Jesuit priest and psychiatrist who heads the Christian Institute for the Study of Human Sexuality in Chicago, IL. He said: "When the question comes up, should we do a study of priests and how many offenders have there been, what was the nature of the offense, what was their training, who were the victims, what treatment did the offenders get, what was the rate of recidivism -- it's all researchable, but the bishops fear you keep the issue alive by doing the research. They fear that the press will get hold of it and come to them and say, 'How many were there in your diocese?' They just don't want to get into that." A complicating factor is that each diocese operates independently of the rest of the Church in the U.S., and reports directly to the Vatican. 14
Some estimates on the percent of abusers:
Philip Jenkins, is a professor of history and religious studies at Penn State University, and has written a book on the topic. 3 He estimates that 2% of priests sexually abuse youth and children. 4
Richard Sipe is a psychotherapist and former priest, who has studied celibacy and sexuality in the priesthood for four decades. He has authored three books on the topic. 5 By extrapolating from his 25 years of interviews of 1,500 priests and others, he estimates that 6% of priests abuse. Of these, 4% abuse teens, aged 13 to 17; 2% abuse pre-pubertal children. 4
Sylvia M. Demarest, a lawyer from Texas has been tracking accusations against priests since the the mid-1990s. By 1996, she had identified 1,100 priests who had been accused of molesting children. She predicts that when she updates the list, the total will exceed 1,500 names. This represents about 2.5% of the approximately 60,000 men who have been active priests in the U.S. since 1984. It is important to realize that these are accused priests; the allegations have not been evaluated in a trial. Also, there is no way to judge what proportion of abusive priests are on her list. It may include 40% or fewer; she may have found 90% or more.
Columnist Ann Coulter claimed, without citing references, that there are only 55 "exposed abusers" in a population of 45,000 priests. This is an abuse rate of 0.12%. 6
Various news services reported that 200 Roman Catholic priests in the Philippines have been investigated for "sexual misconduct and abuses" over the past two decades. That would represent almost 3% of the total population of about 7,000 priests. However, it appears that misconduct includes many offenses, from child abuse to rape to keeping adult mistresses. 15
It is important to keep one's eye on the forest and not on the trees. Even if, as one researcher estimates, six percent of priests sexually abuse youth or children, then that still leaves an average of about 19 priests out of every 20 who are non-abusive.
How many young people are molested by the average abusive priest?
Again, nobody knows for certain.
Priests have freer access to many children than does the average male. His position of authority and trust can facilitate abuse. Thus the number of abused young people per abusive priest may well be larger than for the average molester.
William Reid has written that "careful studies have indicated...that child molesters commit an average of sixty offenses for every incident that comes to public attention." 7 But Thomas Fox estimates that the "average pedophile priest abuses 285 victims." 8
Who are the victims of abusive priests?
The general consensus is that the vast majority of priests do not abuse young people. Among those who do, most fall within the following definitions:
Abusive pedophiles who have a heterosexual orientation and are sexually attracted to pre-pubertal girls, less commonly to boys, and sometimes to both boys and girls. They often have sexual feelings to children of a particular age group -- e.g. 7 and 8 year olds.
Abusive hebephiles (a.k.a. ephebophiles) who are priests with a homosexual orientation. They are sexually attracted to post-pubertal young men, aged 13 to 17 years. 9 Most are also probably attracted to adult males.
Nobody knows, with any degree of accuracy, what percentage of priests fall into each category. One can only guess from the cases that are seen in cases.
Columnist Ann Coulter claimed, without citing references, that "It is a fact that the vast majority of the abuser priests more than 90 percent are accused of molesting teen-age boys." She criticizes The New York Times for intentionally suppressing the gender of the alleged victims by using gender-neutral terms such as the "teen-ager," the "former student," the "victim" and the "accuser." 5
Donald Cozzens, former vicar of priests at the Diocese of Cleveland, OH, wrote in the year 2000 about his experience in the Midwest: "As a group, [child sexual] abusers tend to be married men who prey on girls, although many pedophiles abuse both girls and boys. Our respective diocesan experience revealed that roughly 90 percent of priest abusers targeted teenage boys as their victims. ... Relatively little attention has been paid to this phenomenon by church authorities. Perhaps it is feared that it will call attention to the disproportionate number of gay priests. While homosexually oriented people are no more likely to be drawn to misconduct with minors than straight people, our own experience was clear and, I believe, significant. Most priest offenders, we vicars agreed, acted out against teenage boys." 10,11 More recently, in 2002, he quoted other estimates that "90 percent to 95 percent, and some estimates say as high as 98 percent of the victims of clergy acting out [are] teenage boys." 10
Bill Blakemore of ABC NEWS.com stated in an online interview on an ABC message board: "The vast majority of cases that have come to light in this crisis, somewhere between 90-98 percent apparently, are not technically pedophilia because they are cases of homosexual abuse of teenage boys aged 13-17." 12 He probably picked up the data from Donald Cozzens' writing.
It is worth noting that if the age of consent for homosexual activity were lowered to the age of 16, as it is in many jurisdictions, then most of the criminal acts by abusive priests would disappear. Most charges by the police against abusive priests would disappear. Cases of hebephilia would still represent an ethical quagmire, however. They would be a gross violation of the priest's ordination vows and would be an extremely harmful experience to most of the teens. For example, in Kingston, ON, Canada where our office is located, an Anglican church organist at St. George's Cathedral was convicted of sexually abusing many dozens of young children and youths. Many people believe that two suicides resulted from these criminal acts.
How does abuse by Catholic and Protestant compare?
You guessed it! Nobody knows with any accuracy.
"Gary Schoener, a psychologist whose Walk-In Counseling Center in Minneapolis has consulted with more than 1,000 victims of clerical sexual abuse, believes that the percentage of abusers is no higher among Catholic priests than among Protestant ministers. But in his experience, he said, priests have more victims because they operate longer before they are caught." 14
Some people view celibacy as an unnatural lifestyle. They speculate that a higher percentage of priests are abusers than are Protestant ministers and pastors, because of the Catholic church's celibacy requirement. The implication is that if celibacy were made optional, then priests could marry and wouldn't abuse youths and children. Most Protestant clergy are free to marry, and most heterosexual ministers and pastors do marry. Unfortunately, we have been unable to find reliable information about the level of abuse among Protestant clergy.
There also does not seem to be any reliable information about the level of child molestation among those Roman Catholic priests who are married. Thus any abusive pedophile and hebephile data would be of such low accuracy as to be useless. (The existence of married priests within the Roman Catholic Church is a surprise to many. When the Episcopal Church decided to ordain females, about 95 Episcopal ministers in the U.S. were so distressed by the idea of sharing the priesthood with women that some converted to Roman Catholicism in order to remain in a purely male priesthood. The church allowed them to remain married.)
What does the future hold?
Bishop Thomas Gumbelton of Detroit has said that, in the past, Catholic seminaries had not adequately prepared students for a lifetime of celibacy. They had not taught students how to integrate their sexuality. 13
Barbara Walters of ABC's 20/20 has stated that "...the [Catholic] church has made dramatic changes in the last decade in the way it addresses sexual issues in seminary. Instead of denying or repressing sexual desire, seminaries now use progressive psychology to help men deal openly with the once taboo topics of sexual attraction as well as homosexuality. Seminarians, for example, learn how to channel their sexual energy, and that it is alright to embrace their homosexual orientation. They are taught that intimate, nonsexual friendships may help keep them from breaking their vow of celibacy. " 13
It will take decades to determine the effectiveness of these sex-ed programs in preventing sexual abuse.
References:
"Interview with Frederick S. Berlin," United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, 1997-SEP-8, at:
http://www.nccbuscc.org/comm/kit6.htm Alan Cooperman, "Abuse Problem Is Clouded by A Lack of Data: Opinion Split on Whether Molestation Is More Prevalent in Catholic Clergy," Washington Post, 2002-MAR-10, at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ Philip Jenkins, "Pedophiles and Priests: Anatomy of a contemporary crisis," Oxford University Press, (2001). Read reviews or order this book
Robyn Suriano, "Pedophelia: Psychologists struggle to treat it without fully understanding its causes." Published in the Seattle Times, 2002-APR-28.
A. W. Richard Sipe, "Sex, Priests and Power: Anatomy of a Crisis," Brunner/Mazel, (1995). Read reviews or order this book
Ann Coulter, "Should gay priest [sic] adopt?," TownHall.com at:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ William H. Reid, The Psychiatric Times, 1988-APR-24. Quoted in: A. W. Richard Sipe, "Sex, Priests and Power: Anatomy of a Crisis," Brunner/Mazel, (1995).
Thomas C. Fox, "Sex and power issues expand clergy-lay rift," National Catholic Reporter, 1992-NOV-13, Pages 17 to 19.
Joe Fitzgerald, "Priest fears gays in ranks pose threat to Church," Boston Herald, 2002-MAR-6, at:
http://www2.bostonherald.com/ Father Donald Cozzens, "The Changing Face of the Priesthood," quoted in "Meet the Press transcript," ' ABC News' Meet the Press, 2002-MAR-31, at:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/731454.asp Father Donald Cozzens, "The Changing Face of the Priesthood: A reflection on the priest's crisis of soul," Liturgical Press, (2000). Chapter 8 "Betraying Our Young" deals with sexual abuse. Read reviews or order this book safely from Amazon.com online book store
Bill Blakemore, "Crisis in the Church: Is celibacy to blame?," ABC Newsat:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/ Barbara Walters, "Priests with AIDS: Crisis within [sic] Catholic church," 20/20, at:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020 Alan Cooperman, "Sex abuse in clergy stymies scientists Lack of data thwarts efforts to gauge depth of the problem," Washington Post, 2002-MAR-24, at:
http://detnews.com/2002/religion/ "200 priests investigated for sexual abuses in Philippines," Agence France-Presse, 2002-JUL-9 at:
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/020709/1/30cew.html