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To: sinkspur; NYer; Loyalist; maximillian; sandyeggo; Canticle_of_Deborah; Desdemona; Salvation; ...
BUMP for Liturgical Linguistics - Sacred Language vs. Vernacular.
3 posted on 07/16/2003 12:57:59 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
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4 posted on 07/16/2003 2:45:39 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 ("Look Away Dixie Land!")
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
I believe more of the Apostles and Evangelists learned or knew other languages. Some of the traditions are summarized here. For example, Sts. Thomas and Bartholomew must have learned Parthian and Sanskrit or some equivalent to evangelize in India and Persia (St. Bartholomew also evangelized in Armenia), Sts. Simon and Jude worked in Mesopotamia and Persia - Aramaic may have partially sufficed, but they probably also needed Parthian, St. Andrew would have needed Scythic or Gothic to work in Scythia north of the Black Sea. St. Mark would have perforce needed to know Coptic to work in Alexandria and Egypt, and to found that rite. St. Paul also evangelized in Spain, and probably could have used Celtic he might have known from Asia Minor, or perhaps a translator from Galatia.

Very interesting! I've always wondered where the different Apostles went. I have not seen much information in this regard.

Be back later for the rest of the article.

5 posted on 07/16/2003 2:51:13 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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The earliest Jewish Christians in Palestine must have celebrated the Eucharist in Aramaic.

There it is! I have often surmised that, in the very beginning, Aramaic would have been used.

IMHO, it would have been absolutely beautiful to preserve the aramaic for the Consecration, for those words "This is my body - This is the blood of the new covenant" were first spoken by our Lord in Aramaic.

Great post!! Thanks for the ping ... I find the early church history most interesting.

7 posted on 07/16/2003 3:36:51 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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Excellent post. God Bless you. Please add me to your list.

I have been to 2 or 3 D.L. of the Marionites and their (syro-chaldaic?) Aramaic Chanting for the Consecration is beautiful. It certainly is superior to the Eucharistic Prayers one normally hears at the N.O. One hears the Roman Canon at the N.O. about as often as one hears Eminem sing Gregorian Chant.

13 posted on 07/17/2003 5:04:58 AM PDT by As you well know...
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