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Why anti-Catholicism remains alive and well
Our Sunday Visitor ^ | July 27, 2003 | Russell Shaw

Posted on 07/29/2003 10:56:03 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/29/2003 10:56:04 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; livius; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
But can Catholics really be anti-Catholic?

You betcha ....!!!

2 posted on 07/29/2003 11:03:39 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: NYer
Why anti-Catholicism remains alive and well

Catholics!

3 posted on 07/29/2003 11:05:32 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: NYer
Interesting article!

As a white, married, heterosexual, conservative, pro-life, Roman Catholic, father and attorney -- I may be the most hated man in America.
4 posted on 07/29/2003 11:05:36 AM PDT by el_chupacabra (AMDG)
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To: el_chupacabra
As a white, married, heterosexual, conservative, pro-life, Roman Catholic, father and attorney -- I may be the most hated man in America.

Close ... but you will need to add one more credential to your illustrious list in order to qualify for that - politician. That should entitle you to be hung in effigy.

5 posted on 07/29/2003 11:16:14 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: Onelifetogive
You are piece of evidence number one supporting the central thesis of this article.

And, I'm sorry to inform you, you definitely are NOT Catholic.

So the source of anti-Catholicism is not Catholics.

Thanks for playing, but...

That's right Al--you lost! And let me tell what you didn't win: a twenty-volume set of the Encyclopedia International, a case of Turtle Wax, and a year's supply of Rice-a-Roni, the San Francisco treat. But that's not all! You also made yourself look like a jerk in front of millions of people! And you brought shame and disgrace on your family name for generations to come! You don't get to come back tomorrow! You don't even get a lousy copy of our home game! You're a complete loser!!

6 posted on 07/29/2003 11:19:28 AM PDT by Polycarp (How can you say there are too many children, it is like saying there are too many flowers-MthrTeresa)
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To: el_chupacabra
a white, married, heterosexual, conservative, pro-life, Roman Catholic, father and attorney

You were doing OK by me till you got to that final label ;-)

7 posted on 07/29/2003 11:20:44 AM PDT by Polycarp (How can you say there are too many children, it is like saying there are too many flowers-MthrTeresa)
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So the source of anti-Catholicism is not Catholics.

I did not claim that the source of anti-Catholicism was Catholics...I claimed that the reason for anti-Catholicism was Catholics...

8 posted on 07/29/2003 11:31:55 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: NYer
A primary reason why anti-Catholicism remains alive and well is because of ignorance of Catholic doctrine and beliefs, even among Catholics. Take a look at those on FR who are the loudest anti-Catholics. Most are "former Catholics" who don't understand even the basics of Catholicism.
9 posted on 07/29/2003 11:41:56 AM PDT by Titanites
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It's probably worth adding that some of these "former Catholics" still make false claims about Catholic belief even after having the specific doctrine explained to them numerous times here on FR. I'm not sure of the reason for this. It's apparent that it isn't due to ingnorance. Maybe it's because the Church disciplines were too difficult for them to live by so they will do whatever it takes to discredit the Church.
10 posted on 07/29/2003 11:56:23 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Onelifetogive
Thanks for your thoughts.
11 posted on 07/29/2003 11:59:22 AM PDT by Polycarp (How can you say there are too many children, it is like saying there are too many flowers-MthrTeresa)
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It's not over yet...but it is collapsing under it's own weight...
12 posted on 07/29/2003 12:05:30 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Titanites
It's probably worth adding that some of these "former Catholics" still make false claims about Catholic belief even after having the specific doctrine explained to them numerous times here on FR. I'm not sure of the reason for this.

Might I suggest a possible explanation for discussion...

Having something explained numerous times on FR as "Catholic belief" must be weighed against seeing things as they are actually taught by Catholics, priests, bishops, the vatican staff and even the pope.

The impression left by Catholic Freepers is that the pope is only wrong when he disagrees with Catholic FReepers.

13 posted on 07/29/2003 12:11:24 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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"Having something explained numerous times on FR as "Catholic belief" must be weighed against seeing things as they are actually taught..."

I'm talking about belief as taught according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
14 posted on 07/29/2003 12:48:13 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: el_chupacabra
LOL!

I remember one Christmas Eve in Manhattan, with the usual cosmopolitan setting, and I don't eat the meat dishes, so the lady next to me says: "Are you a vegeterian?" and I say "No I'm Roman Catholic ...", a wave of silence discends, everyone looks at me as if I gone mad, and then my host kindly explains to his flabbergasted guests "She's Italian ..."

Which I'm not, I just live here and originaly my family was from here, but it was his way of negotiating the problem!
15 posted on 07/29/2003 12:54:57 PM PDT by Ippolita (Si vis pacem para bellum)
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To: el_chupacabra; NYer
LOL!

I remember one Christmas Eve in Manhattan, with the usual cosmopolitan setting, and I don't eat the meat dishes, so the lady next to me says: "Are you a vegeterian?" and I say "No I'm Roman Catholic ...", a wave of silence discends, everyone looks at me as if I gone mad, and then my host kindly explains to his flabbergasted guests "She's Italian ..."

Which I'm not, I just live here and originaly my family was from here, but it was his way of negotiating the problem!
16 posted on 07/29/2003 12:55:44 PM PDT by Ippolita (Si vis pacem para bellum)
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To: NYer
read later
17 posted on 07/29/2003 1:05:06 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Titanites
I'm talking about belief as taught according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Can you tell me from the catechism what is required to gain salvation?

18 posted on 07/29/2003 1:19:05 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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...still make false claims about Catholic belief even after having the specific doctrine explained to them numerous times here on FR. I'm not sure of the reason for this. It's apparent that it isn't due to ingnorance.

Some folks are just malicious, others plain evil. See post 13.

19 posted on 07/29/2003 1:46:13 PM PDT by Polycarp (How can you say there are too many children, it is like saying there are too many flowers-MthrTeresa)
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Can you tell me from the catechism what is required to gain salvation?

Yes. Those who die in God's grace and friendship are assured of their eternal salvation.

20 posted on 07/29/2003 1:54:00 PM PDT by Titanites
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