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Posted on 10/01/2005 1:18:41 PM PDT by maxxoccupancy
I have been talking to people about the Republican Liberty Caucus, but I have been having a hard time explaining the issue to people. Our statements of principle have always centered around smaller government and proptecting our rights. A surprisingly small majority of Americans support these two principles, but it's enough to form a political movement.
The RLC has its own statement of principles, and its own conventions. Members are not expected to tow the party line, especially for RINO's. I believe that we should sell the RLC as a separate political group that supports libertarians, constitutionalists, reform party members, and independents, as long as they support our core constitutional principles.
The idea behind the RLC was to form a political group that runs candidates (with an R after their name on the ballot) without the third party ballot access problems. There is a strong need for a large, big tent political movement that can get outsiders in. The few RLC members we have serving in state legislatures are good.
I believe we need a stronger base of support, and I think we need to approach the voters with a broad based alternative to the "two party" system. I believe that we need to tell voters that we are different form the GOP, that we have our own group, and the RLC candidates will stick to their core principles.
Joined just to post this?
IBTZ
Uhmmmm...there are ALREADY several alternatives to the GOP and/or the Democrats.
Neither extreme -left or right- will gain broad-based support.
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IBTZ
Yer a goner fer sure.
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I think that you are a troll.
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Welcome to Free Republic. It would appear that you are being tar and feathered for being new, and raising questions. You will be more likely to stay around if you reply to the thread. The only post I can see that addresses the issues you raised are in post #4. I will wait here to see if you care to respond, or become tank track lube. |
Three hours and no reply? Doesn't look like you are fooling anyone.
Why hasn't he been ZOTTED yet? IB4TZ
maxxoccupancy wrote:
What does everyone think?
REPUBLICAN LIBERTY CAUCUS POSITION STATEMENT
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/721810/posts
"So Jim, You advocate these positions?"
Mostly, yes.
But I'd rather repeal the 16th and abolish the Income Tax and the IRS altogether. And I do not agree with disclosure of campaign contributions. This is a privacy issue. I'd also like to repeal the 17th. And I'd like to go through all of the ABC agencies and abolish those that are not authorized by the Constitution, ie, most of them.
I would also like to see the RLC take a pro-life stance. In the very least, to recognize that the Federal Government has no say in the matter whatsoever. Oh, yeah, and I'd also like to repeal most of the so-called federal crimes.
I believe the Constitution leaves crime fighting to the states. Also, eliminate any chance of double jeopardy thru overlapping federal and state jurisdictions.
83 posted on 07/25/2002 8:35:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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That JimRob character has been around awhile and doesn't propose splitting the GOP vote in two.
This guy posts a proposal to split the party at random as soon as he shows up, then takes off. Typical troll behavior.
Oh please do!
hmmm...it was an interesting post...shame you didn't stay around to discuss it.
IBTZ
The problems with the Republican Party today-and they are manifold-can all be traced back to a lack of conviction, and a reluctance to fight for the principles that made this party great.
As long as political hacks like Frist and Mehlman are running he show I don't see how we can progress as a political movement.
Looks like the establishment Republicans are piling on!
Did they ever consider the possibility that perhaps he never replied because of the reaction-immediate suspicion and hostility-that he was greeted with for asking an honest question?
As far as I can tell he didn't use this thread to plug a weblog, or for some other promotional purpose.
Since when is posting a vanity a no-no?
*confused*
I think the purpose of the RLC is to keep libertarians part of the GOP, not set the stage for their exit. If anyone's leaving the GOP it ought to be the RINOs.
"They should take the Bush bots with them when they leave."
What makes you think they aren't the same folks?
Thanks for the ping. Interesting topic.
Too bad the thread got lost in all the ozone. I would have liked to have heard what various people think about this, one way or the other.
Some are a little quick with the zot.
I'm torn between wanting to believe that this is a cynical effort on their part to divide the hard core, unreconstructed left-and thus bloody Madame Hillary's nose in what's essentially a preliminary to the 2008 presidential election-and simply attributing this to the habitual stupidity of the LP, and their propensity towards engaging in cheap, theatrical campaign stunts.
I'm leaning towards the latter.
Does ANYONE really like Jeannie Pirro? She's the Lebanese-American Harriet Miers.
Yes. Pirro is her husband's name. Having a vowel at the end of your name helps in Yonkers, Eastchester, and certain other parts of Westchester.
Where did you hear this? I would subscribe to the latter assessment, but I don't know what they are trying. Maybe to become the national equivalent of the blue man group.
And THIS kind of stuff is why I only vote big "L" libertarian as an occasional protest vote. Sorry, freepatriot32.
I just can't envision a scenario under which he would not improve upon-or at worst, match-the performance of Rick Lazio.
Yes, I remember the hijinx of the Blue-or more accurately, purple-Man fondly.
Wasn't he running in Idaho?
Libertarians will not stay unless they see their agenda getting somewhere.
We should have left by now, then. Most of us have not, simply because we don't see any viable options.
I sometimes vote libertarian. Guess that's my small way of sending a message.
I do the same thing. If I think that an election won't be close, I vote for the Republican, since I don't want to help split the conservaitve vote, helping the Democrat win with less than the majority. If I think that the Republican candidate is too liberal and that the election won't be close, I vote for the Constitution Party candidate, and, if that party doesn't have a candidate, in that race, I vote for the Libertarian. In Oct. 2004, I thought that Bush was too liberal and that Kerry would win 57% of the vote in my state, Illinois. I voted for the Constitution Party candidate, and Kerry won 57% in IL.
I wish that more conservatives would vote the way that we do. It might cause Republicans to become more conservative.
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