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Posted on 11/13/2007 7:11:27 AM PST by traviskicks
They call him Dr. No -- no big government, no big spending, no flouting the Constitution. And no interest in slick political image.
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) sticks to serious principles and says what he thinks. Someone is listening he raised millions in one day on the Internet.
No more Department of Education. No more Federal Reserve Bank. No more Medicare or Medicaid. No more membership in the United Nations or NATO. No more federal drug laws. And, no more U.S. troops in Iraq -- or anywhere else on foreign soil.
The Internal Revenue Service would be history in the first week that Ron Paul sits behind the desk in the Oval Office. And the dismantling of the above-mentioned entities and relationships -- plus a long list of others -- soon would commence.
Think that sounds eccentric, strange, even crazy? Many of the libertarian-minded, 10-term congressman's rivals for the GOP presidential nomination think so and have said so.
But, to a growing, Internet-based pool of supporters, the silver-haired obstetrician turned politician is the sanest man at the Republican debates and perhaps in all of Congress. Paul attracts an unusual political potpourri of people of all ages and viewpoints, including a sprinkling of conspiracy theorists and other extremists whose views Paul's campaign disavows. While most supporters ardently oppose the Iraq war, what they all share is a deep disenchantment and distrust of the federal government in its present form and a fervent belief in Paul's plans to change it.
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I was quickly looking in my thesaurus and find no listing that ideas was synonymous with bull$hit...
I’ll keep looking..
Seven letters: R-O-N-P-A-U-L. ;)
He is indeed a man of ideas.
A lot of them are good.
Some of them (response to Islamofascism) are very, very, VERY bad.
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He was asked about that in an interview, and he had a funny response like (paraphrasing):
“well, sure some people would be out of work, but you can always find work in the economy, especially with most people keeping more of their money. Now, they may have to take a pay cut, getting paid six figures for stapling paper, can’t get that in the private sector.”
I distinctly remember the ‘stapling paper’ part, lol
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Its interesting that the known ‘kook sites’ like liberty post have banned Ron Paul articles recently.
Make it smaller yes, very much a desirable thing. But even that needs to take time.
This talk of wholesale tearing down of the fed is reckless, and shows even more why RP is wrong, even when in theory he is right.
The irony is I have had Paul supporters tell me “no he really doesn’t want to do that, it will take time”
Yeah, well thank God for the congress if he ever got elected, and I thought I would never say that.
The only candidate who advocates smaller government.
Btw, in case you haven't seen this: click!
"Islamofascism" is clearly nowhere near the threat it is purported to be. If it was, the Bush Administration and the Senate would be working overtime to close our southern border. Since they are doing the opposite, it is safe to assume they see the possibility of a Communist revolution in Mexico as a far greater threat, and are committed to keeping alive President Calderon's safety valve.
Administration actions since indicate that the "Islamofascist" threat was largely destroyed by US military action in Afghanistan in late 2001.
Der Paul HAS no ideas. Here is his “issues” page.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/
There are NO ideas here, just slogans and hysteric ranting about everything and everyone. A bunch of demagogue slogans ran together to push his drones emotional hot buttons are NOT “ideas” There isn’t a single idea on how to do a single thing anywhere here, just a bunch of slogans!
IF Paul actually had an idea on anything other then running away from Iraq, he might be credible but he has none.
Such as . . . ?
And where has Paul advocated disassembling the "entire federal government over just a few months?"
Make it smaller yes, very much a desirable thing. But even that needs to take time.
Where has Paul said differently?
This talk of wholesale tearing down of the fed is reckless, and shows even more why RP is wrong, even when in theory he is right.
What's reckless is standing by silently as the federal government gets ever bigger and ever more intrusive.
What's reckless is voting in politicians that you know will continue feeding and growing the federal government against your own wishes.
Let's say the federal government is a cancer. Are you going to go with the doctor that will vigorously attack the cancer and get it out of your life? Or do you go with the doctor that let's things go the way they are going and even advocates putting into place treatments that will help the cancer grow even further?
The irony is I have had Paul supporters tell me “no he really doesn’t want to do that, it will take time”
The irony to me is to have conservatives tell me that shrinking the federal government is "reckless" and could be "disastrous."
More MSM hype of this sure loser. Anything to sow conflict in the GOP.
The more I think about it the more it seems to me that bin Laden is the new Emmanual Goldstein.
Both the London and Madrid bombing took place after that time. Obvious Al Qeda was not destroyed in Afghanistan in 2001. It is being destroyed as we speak in Iraq, the Philippines, the Sudan and Afghanistan but it is not dead yet.
Your god, Der Paul, would resurrect Al Qeda by running away instead of finishing the job. That fact alone renders him completely unfit to be President.
You Neo Isolationists simply must grow up. Your habit of mindlessly clinging to prove failure of dogmas rather then bother to learn even a single fact about Iraq is simply inexcusable
You mean those guys from Saudi Arabia?
How’re we doing stopping the spread of Wahhabism emanating from Saudi Arabia?
Oh, we’re too busy in Iraq?
How many Iraqis were involved in 9-11 again? I forget.
The Internal Revenue Service would be history in the first week that Ron Paul sits behind the desk in the Oval Office. And the dismantling of the above-mentioned entities and relationships -- plus a long list of others -- soon would commence.
As for the rest, well since you could not read the article why should you be able to read anyones else post, much less mine.
Have a good one...
Excellent, you are against getting rid of the IRS as soon as possible?
I understand why you don’t want to address the rest of my post.
Another example of how Paul is simply unfit for the job. His complete inability to actually present a politically viable agenda. There is no what or how being presented by Paul’s campaign just a bunch of meaningless slogans and sound bites.
Paul is just screaming nice sounding rhetoric and emotional inflamed demagoguery which may make the Paulbots hearts beat faster, it does not qualify Paul for the job of President.
Specifically how? All revenue and taxation bills must originate in Congress, not the Executive. Are you saying that Paul will be some sort of dictator? Something this major would go beyond Unified Executive Theory, something Paul preaches against. I see his 'promise' to eliminate all taxes and the IRS as simply a way of pandering for votes from the suckers who think he could do this.
Yep, and isn’t that ironic, given whats posted about FR in on those sites?
Oh brother...
Not only can you NOT read something in front of you, you CAN read things that are not even there...
You are amazing!!!
... not to mention Little Green Footballs.
Like I have said, Jim has a really cool sense of humor...
Ron Paul is going to get this all done in his first week? Congress will say “yay!” lets all get on board the Ron Paul express. Break out the rubber stamps! Go! Go! Go! Sign faster! We’ve got to get this back to Ron Paul so it can be signed into law.
We’ve got to get all of this bureaucracy out on the streets and moved into productive employment in the private sector! Damn the unions! What do WE care what they think!
Bush tried to privatize a portion of Social Security. Republicans slapped him down.
We had to almost go to our representatives offices and kick their ass so they would not pass the POS immigration bill this year.
Wrong
You are joking, right? Every time I turn on the MSM networks, all I hear about it McCain, Giuliani, and the other CFR candidates. They've been trying to avoid talking about him, as much as possible. As his support grows, it will be harder for them to not talk about him.
As far as 'sowing conflict.' Um... this IS an election. He is merely stating his beliefs, that he has had for a long time. If that conflicts with the RINO's like Giuliani, etc, then so be it. Maybe they should take a look at how far they have strayed from conservatism, into something that makes the 2 parties look like Coke and Pepsi.
Unless he really is delusional, he knows damn well this is all talk.
That, in concert with his war views makes him worse than stupid, it makes him irresponsible, unless like I said he really has lost it, then he is just nuts...
Yeah, like pinatas, something to beat on for fun...
How many Iraqis were on the 9-11 planes? I mean if he was asking for volunteers six months before then he should have had at least one, right?
I mean what point is it being a dictator if you can't even get one military guy to volunteer to help out in a strike against one of your enemies?
If Paul had his way Saddam would still be in power to rape and murder the innocent. We would then have Iran and Iraq racing to get nukes.
Racing to get nukes to use against each other.
If your concerned with the rape and murder of the innocent are you encouraging the US to topple the government of every country in the world that engages in that practice?
Personally I'd rather have the Sunnis and Shias killing each other over there, not uniting to fight us wherever they can. Guess which one of those options our President's foreign policy has led to?
“Yeah, like pinatas, something to beat on for fun...”
That thought had occurred to me recently. We’ll look back fondly when the Paul-lites were all the rage.
No takers!
I agree, that’s why we should stay bloated.
“Guess which one of those options our President’s foreign policy has led to?”
Killing a good portion of al-Queda that was stupid enough to take us on in Iraq and Afganistan?
I agree its reckless. We should plan maybe 10 or 20 years to start to slow govt. Then maybe another 20 to 30 to begin the actual process.
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