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PAUL BLAMES FEDERAL RESERVE FOR WEAK ECONOMY
Fox News ^ | Jan. 21, 2008 | AP

Posted on 01/22/2008 10:15:43 AM PST by ToryNotion

KENNER, La. — Ron Paul, a Republican presidential contender and Texas congressman, said Monday that the Federal Reserve is to blame for the country’s weakening economy.

Paul highlighted his economic remedies — abolishing the federal income tax and returning to the gold standard, among them — on a three-city tour of Louisiana.

The libertarian-minded Paul was the only candidate to visit Louisiana on the eve of the state’s Republican caucuses Tuesday. The caucuses are an intermediary step in picking a favorite candidate. A presidential primary will take place on Feb. 9 and a state convention will convene on Feb. 16.

Paul blamed the Federal Reserve for the current economic conditions; stock markets worldwide fell Monday after Wall Street declined last week. On his Web site, he said the Fed has taken the United States “into a terrible crisis.” Paul told an overflow crowd at a suburban New Orleans hotel Monday that the Fed has allowed the dollar to weaken, which in turn, he said, has hurt the middle class and led to inflation.

“I would enjoy being the next president to get rid of our central bank,” he told supporters. The crowd gave him a raucous welcome, chanting at one point, “Who dat? Who dat say they’re gonna beat Ron Paul?” — a riff on a popular football chant for the New Orleans Saints.

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Meanwhile the lamestream candidate thumb their copies of 'Keynes for Absolute Idiots' and wait in line to kiss Chairman Bernanke's ass.
1 posted on 01/22/2008 10:15:44 AM PST by ToryNotion
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To: ToryNotion

2 posted on 01/22/2008 10:17:19 AM PST by Petronski ("Make all the promises you have to." --Slick Willard, 9 Jan 08)
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To: ToryNotion

paulite moonbattery, Jekyll Island style


3 posted on 01/22/2008 10:18:15 AM PST by babble-on
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To: ToryNotion

Lowering rates was dumb today.

At least they should have waited to see what the market did - maybe reach a plateau.

Instead they blew their wad - there’s nothing left to do, except.... print more money to relieve the credit crunch.

The dollar will continue to sink, and as a result oil prices will go up, as will everything else.

Menawhile we continue to spend like drunken sailors and borrow the balance from the Chicoms.

Bush’s solution? Print more money and send everyone a check.

How conservative.


4 posted on 01/22/2008 10:19:04 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ToryNotion

Why does Paul remind me of an Economic Global Warming-esque alarmist? He takes short term changes and tries to create long term projected trends that are molded to his premise, completely ignoring the long term historical trends.


5 posted on 01/22/2008 10:20:18 AM PST by mnehrling
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To: babble-on

So you favor free markets but not for interest rates. The government is smarter than the markets when in comes to interest rates. Is that your position? (Yeah, I know the Fed is independent, blah, blah and so is the tooth fairy).


6 posted on 01/22/2008 10:20:34 AM PST by ToryNotion
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To: Petronski

Keep laughing while the status quo flushes us down the toilet.

You’ll be glad I gave you that rice recipe before long.

Assuming they aren’t converting the rice into biofuel for Hummvees to protect Iraq’s borders while ours our open.


7 posted on 01/22/2008 10:20:48 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Petronski

There is no question that the Fed miscalculated. On the other hand, history has shown that you still have recessions, even when you don’t have central banks. At least this way, there is a limit to what can go wrong, and how bad it can get.


8 posted on 01/22/2008 10:21:16 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: ToryNotion
Yep, blame what is arguably the most incompetent group of Governor’s while ignoring the fact that this mess is the result of accumulated greed, stupidity and the urge to have-it-now-so-let’s-charge-it-on-the-card mentality of MILLIONS OF OTHERWISE DECENT AMERICANS.

Consume now save later, get-rich-quick real estate speculation and a ‘Bread and Circuses’ mentality of our Gov’t are to blame as well. The Fed is simply a follower, way behind the curve on this one.

Buy this guy an Econ 101 text.

9 posted on 01/22/2008 10:21:56 AM PST by TCats
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To: ToryNotion
Perhaps Paul will next say that the Queen of England is a drug lord? Oh wait, that's Lyndon LaRouche.

Then again, what's the difference?

10 posted on 01/22/2008 10:22:10 AM PST by COBOL2Java (May the Lord bless and keep Hillary Clinton - far away from the White House!)
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To: mnehrling

“Why does Paul remind me of an Economic Global Warming-esque alarmist? He takes short term changes and tries to create long term projected trends that are molded to his premise, completely ignoring the long term historical trends.”

Long term historical trends show exactly what happens when Keynesian solutions are used.


11 posted on 01/22/2008 10:22:14 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Petronski
Maybe you could respond to Dr. Paul's points rather than posting idiot smears.

So tell us.....where is he wrong?

And why do you support chartered central banks over metals backed currency?

Do you have answers, or are you just a juvenile who posts cartoons?

12 posted on 01/22/2008 10:22:20 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Petronski

Does Paul even support a National Currency? I wonder.

I mean, that’s too much power for the government to have - printing money and all that.

After all, can’t people do a better job themselves of printing money than the federal Government?


13 posted on 01/22/2008 10:22:49 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
How conservative.

Exactly. Federal interest rates are simply a tax on currency, thus lowering interest rates are lowering the tax or cost of currency. As for the rebate, the same thing, returning taxes to the people and into the economy instead of keeping it in the Federal Gov. We need to get the prez the Line Item Veto so he (or the next president) can take care of all the pork & earmarks attached to vital bills and we can fix spending.

14 posted on 01/22/2008 10:23:22 AM PST by mnehrling
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To: Brilliant

“At least this way, there is a limit to what can go wrong, and how bad it can get.”

Really, how?

Price and wage controls?

Ha ha ha ha.

Expect shortages of everything once that comes.


15 posted on 01/22/2008 10:23:42 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: COBOL2Java

Do you have anything for Java2Rails? That would really be a help right now.


16 posted on 01/22/2008 10:24:30 AM PST by ToryNotion
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To: mnehrling

The long term historical trend is that the FED has depreciated the dollar by about 98.5%, if he reminds you of “an Economic Global Warming-esque alarmist”, it’s only because you’re in dire need of a clue...


17 posted on 01/22/2008 10:24:34 AM PST by Axenolith (Brother, Can you spare a tagline?)
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To: babble-on
paulite moonbattery, Jekyll Island style

Well, I guess Donald Luskin is a moonbat too. He's the chief investment officer for Trend Macrolytes LLC, an independent economics and investment firm. Here's his endorsement of Paul today writing for NRO:

THE PAULONOMICS FACTOR

18 posted on 01/22/2008 10:24:38 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Hello Stagflation.

Between Bush's idiot policies and Congress' malfeasance with the Budgets, it's not a wonder that the House of Cards is wobbling.

Paul's castigation of the FedReserve is only one piece of a larger puzzle.

19 posted on 01/22/2008 10:25:11 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
That about summed it up.

Expect gold over $1000 real soon. With the top nowhere in sight.

20 posted on 01/22/2008 10:25:17 AM PST by Regulator
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To: mnehrling

“Exactly. Federal interest rates are simply a tax on currency, thus lowering interest rates are lowering the tax or cost of currency. As for the rebate, the same thing, returning taxes to the people and into the economy instead of keeping it in the Federal Gov. We need to get the prez the Line Item Veto so he (or the next president) can take care of all the pork & earmarks attached to vital bills and we can fix spending.”

Lowering the rates artificially inflates the currency. It’s an invisible tax.

Please go buy and read any Milton Friedman or Thomas Sowell book. Today.

BTW Bush signed the biggest spending bills ever into history - prescription drugs for example.

Borrowed from the chicoms - increasing the money supply further.

The dollar loses more and more value.


21 posted on 01/22/2008 10:25:34 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Ludwig von Mises would not be happy today, cause you know what he said about this?


22 posted on 01/22/2008 10:25:50 AM PST by Perdogg (Huckabee got his foreign policy from IHOP, McCain got his immigration policy from The Waffle House)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Yea, the most powerful economy in the history of the world with an overall positive growth trend for the past century is an indication of the failure of Keynesian economics. How are the countries that use Austrian Economic theory doing again?


23 posted on 01/22/2008 10:26:04 AM PST by mnehrling
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To: COBOL2Java

ROTFLMAO


24 posted on 01/22/2008 10:26:40 AM PST by Perdogg (Huckabee got his foreign policy from IHOP, McCain got his immigration policy from The Waffle House)
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To: ToryNotion

I guess Mr. Doctor Congressman Paul didn’t go with his normal suspicion of “fleet-footed negroes” and other racist maunderings that usually plop out of his facial sphincter.

This tiny-headed nazi supporter shouldn’t have any press except for when he declares himself Uber-Fuerher of Mars (my bet’s on April for that stage of his mental disintegration).


25 posted on 01/22/2008 10:27:37 AM PST by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: mnehrling

Look at our debt load current and future and tell me how sound the US economy is.


26 posted on 01/22/2008 10:27:38 AM PST by ToryNotion
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To: ToryNotion

I guess Mr. Doctor Congressman Paul didn’t go with his normal suspicion of “fleet-footed negroes” and other racist maunderings that usually plop out of his facial sphincter.

This tiny-headed nazi supporter shouldn’t have any press except for when he declares himself Uber-Fuerher of Mars (my bet’s on April for that stage of his mental disintegration).


27 posted on 01/22/2008 10:27:38 AM PST by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Luskin is a GENIUS.

His endorsement is the biggest yet.

He’s the guy who has been on Krugman like flies on poop, for years.

http://www.poorandstupid.com/chronicle.asp

There’s his blog.


28 posted on 01/22/2008 10:27:50 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mnehrling

We WERE the most powerful. Bush-Clinton-Bush have done a lot to reverse that trend. You haven’t read any of the recent “recession” articles out there have you...


29 posted on 01/22/2008 10:27:57 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: ToryNotion

Look at the historical nature of our debt load and what happened to us. What was the debt load related to GDP after WWII? What happened to the economy? Debt isn’t good, but it sure as heck isn’t the Titanic that doomsayers make it out to be.


30 posted on 01/22/2008 10:29:30 AM PST by mnehrling
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

No. You can keep the money supply within certain bounds.


31 posted on 01/22/2008 10:30:05 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: mnehrling

Hmmm, how about the 95% decline in the value of the dollar since 1900? Is that long-term enough for you?


32 posted on 01/22/2008 10:31:05 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Brilliant

“No. You can keep the money supply within certain bounds.”

It’s out of control - deficit spending and borrowing.

T-Bills create money out of thin air.

Artificially low interest rates create money out of thin air.

Why do you think the dollar is sinking?


33 posted on 01/22/2008 10:31:35 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Brilliant

That’s exactly what Paul Volcker did. It was a successful policy.


34 posted on 01/22/2008 10:31:53 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Dead Corpse
First, we have had recessions and worse in the past and we always come out stronger when you let the markets correct. Second, we are NOT in a recession. A recession is not gaged by gut feelings, it is a measurable event- specifically, two consecutive quarters of negative GDP, we have yet to even have one quarter of this to start the trend.
35 posted on 01/22/2008 10:32:06 AM PST by mnehrling
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To: oblomov

“Hmmm, how about the 95% decline in the value of the dollar since 1900? Is that long-term enough for you?”

Don’t worry.

When it gets too bad, they’ll swap your greenbacks for Ameros.

Then it will be all better.


36 posted on 01/22/2008 10:33:02 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mnehrling

“First, we have had recessions and worse in the past and we always come out stronger when you let the markets correct. Second, we are NOT in a recession. A recession is not gaged by gut feelings, it is a measurable event- specifically, two consecutive quarters of negative GDP, we have yet to even have one quarter of this to start the trend.”

You’re right - we’re seeing stagflation.

Bush is the new Carter.


37 posted on 01/22/2008 10:33:45 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TitansAFC

>>Does Paul even support a National Currency? I wonder.

Yes, the Constitution gives the Federal government the power to coin money.


38 posted on 01/22/2008 10:34:04 AM PST by oblomov
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Here's another moonbat/Troofer/white supremacist talking about our looming crisis. Why, he's only David Walker, the nation's top accountant for the GAO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaSuL9L_G2w

Time to move to the Philippines!

39 posted on 01/22/2008 10:34:07 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

It may be out of control in large part. The Fed is not perfect. But without the Fed, it would be completely out of control. We would still be in the recession of 1975.


40 posted on 01/22/2008 10:34:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus

Ah, the obligatory “Paul’s a racist!” smears, when you can’t debate the facts.


41 posted on 01/22/2008 10:35:49 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“I would argue that the most serious threat to the United States is not someone hiding in a cave, in Afghanistan or Pakistan, but our own fiscal irresponsibility.”

That’s why, despite my reservations about his view on the WoT, I’m supporting Dr Paul!

100%


42 posted on 01/22/2008 10:36:30 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: oblomov

-—”Yes, the Constitution gives the Federal government the power to coin money.”-—

Yup. But Paul didn’t sign it, you know?


43 posted on 01/22/2008 10:38:18 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush; Revelation 911; NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; ...

Let freedom Ping.

Ron Paul continues to say the same things about the Fed and people still don’t get it.

BTW, Watch this lego brickman film as to what happens next as it begins to cost more money to print dollars then the paper it’s printed on is worth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as3AYVzWmOI


44 posted on 01/22/2008 10:40:55 AM PST by CJ Wolf (To Join or leave the offical Ron Paul 'let freedom' Ping, Freepmail me.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
“I would argue that the most serious threat to the United States is not someone hiding in a cave, in Afghanistan or Pakistan, but our own fiscal irresponsibility.” Someone, ladies and gentlemen, who 'gets it'.
45 posted on 01/22/2008 10:42:54 AM PST by ToryNotion
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To: TCats

Agreed. A lot of this has to due with blind, naked greed and ‘irrational exuberance’ or whatever you want to call it. But I think that Dr. Paul is right to point at the Fed as the main ‘enabler’.


46 posted on 01/22/2008 10:45:12 AM PST by ToryNotion
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To: Petronski; mnehrling; lormand

Suddenly, I have a craving for some boiled wild shrimp.


47 posted on 01/22/2008 10:45:26 AM PST by Allegra (It'll be a cold day in Hell when it snows in Baghdad.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
When it gets too bad, they’ll swap your greenbacks for Ameros. We may live to see that day.
48 posted on 01/22/2008 10:47:20 AM PST by ToryNotion
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To: TCats
Buy this guy an Econ 101 text.

If you're talking about Dr. Paul he's read a lot of texts on economics. My guess is the rest of the slate of candidates would have trouble with 'Economics for Dummies'.

49 posted on 01/22/2008 10:50:16 AM PST by ToryNotion
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
End the Fed!

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. -Thomas Jefferson

50 posted on 01/22/2008 10:51:54 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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