Conservative Ron Paul won Florida Debate!

associated content ^ | Jan. 25th, 2008 | Bobby Tall Horse

[stillafreemind]

According to the msnbc polls for the Florida debate, Ron Paul won the debate with 42% of the vote. Mitt Romney came in second with 40%. Huckabee had 8%, McCain had 6% and Rudy came in last with 4%.

I find it interesting that the media brushes Ron Paul support off as a joke. And immediately go to the next highest polling candidate. Ron Paul supporters continue to vote for him, so ignoring him isn't working.

[stillafreemind]

I actually agree with Ron Paul's fiscal ideas more than the other candidates.

[theDentist]

That’s nice. Let’s see how he does when people go into a booth.

[SlapHappyPappy]

Other polls have Romney first and Rudy second.

In short, who won debate polls are generally useless.

[cripplecreek]

I wouldn’t know. I haven’t watched the last couple of debates.

[Moonman62]

What a bunch of dishonest nutcases. They spam a poll, and then put out a paid press release announcing their unethical deed.

[Paradox]

Was this an online poll? If so, then it is TOTALLY WORTHLESS.

[stillafreemind]

It will be interesting for sure. I highly doubt that you read the article..but I believe its another conservative looking for a candidate. Who is your conservative choice?

[italianquaker]

paul the amusing buffoon wins again but still has less then 5 pct support(LOL)

[Charles Henrickson]

Ron Paul won the debate with 42% of the vote. Mitt Romney came in second with 40%. Huckabee had 8%, McCain had 6% and Rudy came in last with 4%.

Remove the Ron Paul votes and you get a truer picture of the proportions. Ron Paul votes don't count; they're irrelevant.

[stillafreemind]

I see you were a supporter of Duncan Hunter. As a conservative, are you just going to stay home and not vote at all? Or have you picked another.

[Poser]

Ron Paul won an online poll?

Too funny.

[stillafreemind]

They count if his supporters throw a vote in the hurrah.

[RockinRight]

I like most of his fiscal ideas. I think he’s a bit archaic on monetary policy, but even there his heart is in the right place.

However, he is DEAD WRONG on defense issues and the War on Terror. DEAD WRONG. I use the word “dead” because that’s what we’d all be under a Ron Paul presidency.

[cripplecreek]

I’m waiting to see what shakes out. My primary is over so its out of my hands.

[murphE]

announcing their unethical deed.

Speaking of unethical deeds:

Time they were given to speak:

Total Times:
Romney: 21:11, during 13 times
McCain: 16:00, during 13 times
Giuliani: 13:50, during 11 times
Huckabee: 12:11, during nine times
Paul: 6:31, during six times

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Ron Paul supporters are the only ones stupid enought to sit by the phone and re-dial for two hours. lol.

[stillafreemind]

You could be right. But we may well be just as dead with Huckabee and McCain porous borders.

[theDentist]

I liked Fred, but he’s out. I haven’t made a new choice... frankly, I can’t find a one worth my vote. Sadly, this year will come down to voting for the candidate who you believe will do the least damage to the Nation, to the Party, and to the Office.

[Axenolith]

From the article...

I don't want bigger government. I don't want government in my personal life. I am pro-life. I believe in the constitution. I don't believe in nanny states. I believe in these times, our military should be well fitted and should not fight everyone else's battles. The only exception I have to that is Israel. Because I know if we go fight for her, she will already be in the thick of it. Unlike other so-called allies, where we fight their battles, shed our men and women's blood, and pick up the tab. No thank you, no expenses paid and absolutely no loyalty to the U.S.

Yea, what a crackpot nutcase. Thank god people like this don't gain traction, hell, we'd have to think and do things for ourselves in the America they'd create... /sarc

[stillafreemind]

Thanks for posting that..like I said IF people took time to READ the article..there’s more to it than Ron winning or not winning a debate for goodness sakes.

[Kevmo]

Me neither. If I had, there’d be an Intrade before & after snapshot and even if my guy had not won, there would be objective evidence for what I say.

[Moonman62]

That’s 6:31 too much for Paul.

[McGruff]

Not a scientific survey.

[Mr. Brightside]

Just like the Buchanan supporters.

You actually think the most qualified person for president is the one who can win an argument?

That may get him on the Jerry Springer show, but does not make him qualified to be president.

[FoxInSocks]

I find it interesting that the media brushes Ron Paul support off as a joke.

It's a lot more than just the media giving ol' Paul the brushoff. And where's the link to the claimed MSNBC poll?

But, if people turn out to the polls instead of just on the text phones, Ron Paul is someone to be reckoned with.

Alas, when you show up to vote in person, you can only vote once.

[jrooney]

Fiscal ideas? Like earmarks that Ron Paul intentionally puts into bills that he knows will pass, yet he votes no on the bills. Therefore, he gets the earmarks he submitted, yet votes no.

Ron Paul is a hypocrite and a disgrace that wants to surrender to al Qaeda, wants free trade with Cuba and Iran because he sees them as no threats, thinks we brought on 9/11, compares the deaths of the 3000 innocent civilians slaughtered on 9/11 to automobile accidents, etc. That Ron Paul? He is a buffoon that should be tarred and feathered for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

[oblomov]

Yes, once Paul is out of the picture, the GOP can breathe a sigh of relief and continue in its traditional and proper role as the tax collector for the welfare state.

[oblomov]

>>Ron Paul is a hypocrite

Name one mortal human who isn’t, please...

[kidd]

Oh my gosh!
MSNBC!
Their audience of six dozen democrats and two Buchananites chose Ron Paul!

[WOSG]

Ron Paul always wins the internet polls.
maybe he should run for President of the World wide web.
Romney, according to most real-world reaction, was the winner.

[pepperhead]

And how many delegates does he get for that? LOL

[murphE]

Ah censorship is OK when it helps to suppress views contrary to yours. I’m sure you’ll have no problem when Hitllary uses this tactic during her presidency.

[FoxInSocks]

Oh, there's the link! Thanks.

Included in the notes from MSNBC regarding this poll:

[Voters in this poll] may be highly motivated supporters of a particular candidate who are determined to show their support for him or her in any way they can.

And while Live Votes are designed to allow only one vote per user, someone who wants to vote more than once can use another computer or another Internet account.

[stillafreemind]

LOL...he’s got more than Roooody!

[jrooney]

Ron Paul puts the con in constitutionalist.

"Yes, once Paul is out of the picture, the GOP can breathe a sigh of relief and continue in its traditional and proper role as the tax collector for the welfare state."

Here I fixed your post - Yes, once Paul is out of the picture, the GOP can breathe a sigh of relief we will not surrender to al Qaeda and we will continue taking the fight to them in the WOT all around the globe.

[Brilliant]

I’m not sure I would say they are irrelevant. Paul is not going to win Fla., but I suspect he will get a lot more votes than the media expects. He certainly has a lot of supporters here in Orlando. I go passed about 4 or 5 Ron Paul yard signs on my way to work every day. I know a few people who are Ron Paul supporters. And they aren’t libs, either. They are conservatives who just don’t think we can afford the war on terror, as it is presently being fought.

[Moonman62]

Some of his views are a problem, not all of them. The real problem is he is a kook. He’s unable to see the big picture. His followers are dishonest as hell, and that is a reason to kick him out of the debates.

[Allegra]

This is kind of scary.

[stillafreemind]

I’m sure our fore fathers would be proud of your statement.

[Moonman62]

If they knew Ron Paul and his unethical followers, they would be.

[pepperhead]

Good point. ;)

[Allegra]

[stillafreemind]

I think you may be wrong. Most of them were thought of as Ron Paul types weren’t they?

[SlapHappyPappy]

The thing is, his supporters tend to be more vocal, and more likely to do things like place yard signs. I believe it is because he is such an underdog.

I also do not believe anything they do gets them many converts.

[mnehrling]

There was another Ron Paul there? The only one I saw was the Moderate libertarian Paul, I didn't know there was a 'Conservative' Paul?
From OnTheIssues

[murphE]

Oh he does see the “big picture”, which is even larger than those who claim to see it think it is. When the inmates are running the asylum someone from the outside tends to look like a kook. I am one of his supporters, as are a good number of your fellow freepers, some freepers from as far back as ‘98. Are you saying we are all “dishonest as hell”? Oh, and isn’t the censorship you are advocating a form of dishonesty?

[mnehrling]

That seems to mirror how they poll nationally. Thanks for posting.

[Brilliant]

Yeah, he’s not going to win. I’m not sure if he is a nonfactor, though. Possibly he is tipping the vote in one way or the other.

I would not say that there is no circumstance under which I would vote for him. If it were a choice between him or McCain, it would be difficult to persuade me to vote for McCain.

[Pawtucket Patriot]

Some Conservative folks actually believe, I know it's hard for you to understand this maybe, but actually believe our country shouldn't go and invade and basically colonize every other country we've decided was "evil." 2007 Worst Dictators

If this were so, we still have to invade...
1)Sudan
2)North Korea
3)Iran
4)China
5)Burma
etc...

Your WOT argument makes me laugh, I mean when do we win the WOT anyways? You can't, it's like the war on drugs! At least Ron Paul realizes this, and isn't feeding you "cake" paraphrasing "Dan Savage."

I hate, that we risk my brothers in arms to overthrow every little Dictator etc. Afghanistan I undersand was necessary, but Iraq, no way. But that opinion is deemed "weak" here, and the "we can't lose at any cost" mindset is strong here, and the "we can't budge an inch or we've lost our country" folks will come back to this post, fists a clenched, flags a waving, my "conservative authenticity" challenged, like any of us know anymore except to make check lists and compare.

[murphE]

Some Conservative folks actually believe, I know it's hard for you to understand this maybe, but actually believe our country shouldn't go and invade and basically colonize every other country we've decided was "evil."

CODE PINKO TRAITOR!/sarcasm