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Why the GOP Must Lose: Nothing short of defeat will put it back on its limited government track
Reason magazine ^ | October 22, 2008 | Radley Balko

Posted on 10/22/2008 11:32:45 AM PDT by grundle

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To: CottonBall
I am fighting for the rights of the unborn and the future of the Republican party, Palin.

I was told "get used to it". I do not need to get used to anything or have some freeper that wants to give up tell me to get used to it. He was rude and popped off. He did not need to post to me. I responded to his "get used to it" accordingly.
161 posted on 10/22/2008 2:28:37 PM PDT by jrooney (I am not voting for Spread the Wealth/Senator Government. I am voting for the War Hero and Baracuda.)
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To: lainie
The only problem with your theory is that John McCain isn’t for limited government or smaller government either.

lol

162 posted on 10/22/2008 2:30:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (We witnessed the biggest expansion of government in American history)
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To: Maverick68

Agreed.

And thus, setting her up to run for POTUS in 2012... Gosh, that would just be awful, dontcha think? sarc/


163 posted on 10/22/2008 2:33:14 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: CottonBall

Point taken. Make no mistake, I am NOT pro-McCain, but anti-Obama.

I will not be placing McCain signs in my yard and when I sent $100 to the State GOP Party, I specifically told them to use for state races and not for any national race.

I worry most of the Permanent majority these vile Americans will con up. I do not like McCain but he is not vile.

My last and most important test of a man is whether I thing he is a patriot of this country. If I sincerely believe he/she is, I can accept him/her as she can be influenced to do what is best for the country.

Obama fails this test. See attached.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2112483/posts
Fareed Zakaria

http://www.amazon.com/Post-American-World-Fareed-Zakaria/dp/039306235X

Fareed Zakaria, appeaser and Muslim apologist

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/003710.html


164 posted on 10/22/2008 2:33:28 PM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: MEGoody

Just back out of the room slowly, don’t break eye contact or make any sudden moves...


165 posted on 10/22/2008 2:35:32 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Finally a Conservative on the RNC ticket....)
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To: jrooney

Sorry, I didn’t see the ‘get used to it’ comment. Then tit for tat is fair. (Can I say that?)

I’m really hoping Palin will stay conservative (at least as conservative as she is stated to be - I really haven’t got to hear her own stance on many issues yet) - and be there for ‘12. Fingers crossed.


166 posted on 10/22/2008 2:35:39 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

My understanding is Palin is very conservative and very pro-life. Overturning Roe versus Wade is important to me and my family. I think with Palin, we stand a good chance of that happening someday. Plus, IMO she is a breath of fresh air. Something needed in the Republican party at this point.


167 posted on 10/22/2008 2:39:13 PM PDT by jrooney (I am not voting for Spread the Wealth/Senator Government. I am voting for the War Hero and Baracuda.)
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To: jrooney

She is that (a breath of fresh air). Just listening to her makes me feel hopeful about the future of the country. She has an optimism that is energizing. And isn’t an elitist snob, like so many in D.C.


168 posted on 10/22/2008 2:42:34 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: lainie
The only problem with your theory is that John McCain isn’t for limited government or smaller goverment either.

True, but it won't take decades to undo McCain like it would bambi's debacle in the very BEST case scenario.

We're still paying for the Carter years...but I'd have NO hopes of EVER seeing undone what bambi will do and I'm 47 years old just like bambi is!

169 posted on 10/22/2008 2:53:20 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: MEGoody

Trust me, we already have a form of socialized medicine. With medicare, and illegals going to the ER and poor children.

Now bambi wants this broken model for ALL citizens.


170 posted on 10/22/2008 3:06:11 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: thesearethetimes...
POTUS Barrack Hussein 0Bama will have the CCCP
( Communist Conformation Compelling Police )
based on ACORN, the Weathermen and other thugs.
171 posted on 10/22/2008 3:35:51 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama and ITS thugs are made paranoid by Sarahnoia. (stole from molly_jack2007))
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To: MEGoody
Um, so you think we already have socialized medicine?

We're already pretty damn close to it. And, even if McCain's elected, watch for his first official act to reach across the aisle to friend Ted to enact whatever the senior senator from MA wants.

How do I know? He's made a career of co-opting the lefts' agenda in the past. That says he'll do it in the future as well.

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

172 posted on 10/22/2008 3:55:57 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Will Bush, Bernanke or Paulson let Uncle Sam handle their personal wealth?)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Yup. I don’t know how anyone can look at his attempts now, to silence the opposition, and not understand the gravity of our situation.

I understand fully, that getting McCain - Palin in office will be just the first step on a very long road back to freedom, but if Obama takes power, getting it back without bloodshed will be highly unlikely. These people mean business.

They see this as their best shot, and they make it clear daily, that they will do whatever it takes to make it break their way.


173 posted on 10/22/2008 4:05:42 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: CottonBall

McCain was practically my last choice as a candidate among what I thought was somewhat of a weak group of candidates. In hindsight, I think Huckabee would have been the best of the lot. That said, we are stuck with McCain, and while I am not a big fan, when compared to Obama he shines.


174 posted on 10/22/2008 5:28:00 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: yazoo

I’m actually looking back at the rather weak field and thinking how much better some of the other choices that I found unpalatable then - would’ve been. Oh well. We have what we have - I just wish he’d give up on amnesty and on ‘crossing the aisle’ so much that he’s a resident over there. But he is heads above the socialist, no doubt. I’ll have to back him. Actually, her. He’s going along for the ride. ;)


175 posted on 10/22/2008 6:04:25 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: antceecee
People like you are why we are having to put up with Reid and Pelosi... and I would say that is much worse than whatever you can fling my way

OOh you got me there. Especially since I live in Utah and vote in NEITHER of their states.

Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries.

176 posted on 10/22/2008 6:24:48 PM PDT by SwankyC (Paris Hilton 08 - I'm voting for 2 small boobies instead of 2 huge boobs)
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To: MEGoody
Depends. Is one of your principles to let the guy win who will make a bigger government that you will live with the rest of your life in the vain hope of teaching someone a lesson?

Are you under some extremely misguided assumption that McCain will make smaller, less intrusive govt? Bravo! Well thought out, sir!

177 posted on 10/22/2008 6:26:58 PM PDT by SwankyC (Paris Hilton 08 - I'm voting for 2 small boobies instead of 2 huge boobs)
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To: SwankyC

Now there you go... showing all your low IQ.


178 posted on 10/22/2008 8:17:13 PM PDT by antceecee (McCain ~ Palin '08 May God have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: SwankyC
Are you under some extremely misguided assumption that McCain will make smaller, less intrusive govt?

Of course not. I never even implied that in any of my posts. But then, you know that.

You're attempting to turn a blind eye to the truth about what would happen under an Obama presidency. You're pretending you're principles are so high and mighty that you can be excused from being willing to subject the country to socialized medicine and 'spreading the wealth'.

It is your vote, of coure, and you may cast it (or not cast it) as you wish. But no one has to respect your decision.

179 posted on 10/23/2008 6:18:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody
Of course not. I never even implied that in any of my posts. But then, you know that.

Uuuhhh, Yea you did.

180 posted on 10/23/2008 6:20:04 AM PDT by SwankyC (Paris Hilton 08 - I'm voting for 2 small boobies instead of 2 huge boobs)
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