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Monstrous Islam

Posted on 01/25/2010 5:51:26 PM PST by Zanton

Islam is an ideology for monsters. It's like Nazism and Communism in its shocking level of theoretical and intellectual evil. Islam harbors a simply stunning level of love for war (jihad) and slavery (sharia).

That's why unless a person is brainwashed into it as a child, or conquered into it as an adult, few, if any, good and decent people freely convert to the philosophy of Islam. Only monsters.

Any normal, humane, tolerable, at least semi-respectable person morally condemns and personally loathes what the belief-system of Islam essentially constitutes and entails, namely: jihad and the jihadis, plus sharia and the shariaists. Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Mormons, Hindus, agnostics, and atheists all openly, publically, loudly, proudly proclaim their hatred and rejection of these philosophical ideals, as well as all the jihadi/shariaist groups like Al Qaida, the Taliban, Hezbollah, Hamas, Fatah, Islamic Jihad, the PLO, Jamaat-e-Islami, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the Muslim Brotherhood, etc.

But average, typical, mainstream, moderate Muslims don't condemn or loath these utopian goals and groups at all. Rather, almost all Islamics rationalize about their ghastly beliefs, and the divinely-demanded behavior of mass-murder (jihad) and mass-slavery (sharia) of innocents by Muslim activists to promote "Allah's religion." Almost all Muslims make excuses and offer tortured, none-too-honest rationalizations for this and them.

Rather than rejecting this almost limitless horror -- like everyone else does -- average, normal, mainstream, moderate Muslims morally condemn and personally loath the West for holding all people, including the Islamics, to just one moral and civilizational standard. Islamic-believers despise and revile the West for expecting them to oppose the ultra-evil jihadis and shariaists just as much as do the Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Mormons, Hindus, agnostics, and atheists.

The West might desperately hope for Muslim opposition to such awful behaviors. But these dreadful fiends refuse. That's why it can truly be said: Islam is an ideology for monsters.


TOPICS: General Discussion; Issues
KEYWORDS: crushislam; islam; libertarianism; liberty; muslims

1 posted on 01/25/2010 5:51:29 PM PST by Zanton
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To: Zanton
Islam harbors a simply stunning level of love for war (jihad) and slavery (sharia).

And killing. Don’t forget killing non-believers.

The Koran:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Sura (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Sura (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Sura (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Sura (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Sura (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Sura (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Sura (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make them prisoners,"

Sura (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"

Sura (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end

From the Hadith:

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’”

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

The Koran and hadiths are replete with examples of Muhammad's barbaric behavior. Robert Spencer does a good job here explaining Islam - Blogging the Qur’an Start at the bottom.

2 posted on 01/25/2010 5:54:44 PM PST by FatherofFive (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud that Massachusettes is part of the United States!)
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To: Zanton

You nailed it. No wonder Islam likes to recruit in American prisons. I gather there is a lot of child abuse (as well as spouse abuse) in Muslim culture; that probably goes a long way toward explaining the likes of Muslim Rage Boy.


3 posted on 01/25/2010 5:55:54 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Zanton

Islam is a deadly, cancerous ideology, and everything in it is designed towards seeking world domination.


4 posted on 01/25/2010 6:01:25 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Zanton

“Allah is the greatest of deceivers” (Word being “Makr” = deceiver. It is often incorrectly translated as “planner”.)
Who else do we know listed as being a master of deceit?


5 posted on 01/25/2010 6:05:20 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Zanton

Why do you think Islam is growing so fast in America’s prisons among the Monsters imprisoned there?


6 posted on 01/25/2010 6:08:21 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Zanton
COOKIE MONSTROUS!!!!


7 posted on 01/25/2010 6:15:56 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Zanton

Of these organizations Islam, Neo Nazis, KKK, and all other radical groups, I think Islam is the most evil. They are more fanatic and world wide. The most harmful group to America on the local level is without a doubt the ACLU.


8 posted on 01/25/2010 6:23:15 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: FatherofFive
These are all great quotes! :-) Everyone should memorize them. Especially Barack Obama, all the other political leaders, and all our leading thinkers, writers, scholars, and intellectuals.

The Jewish and Christian holy books have plenty of bad quotes themselves -- but the West doesn't believe or follow them. Big difference.

Muslims desperately need a Reformation -- or Super-Reformation!

9 posted on 01/25/2010 6:25:15 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: hellbender
"You nailed it. No wonder Islam likes to recruit in American prisons. I gather there is a lot of child abuse (as well as spouse abuse) in Muslim culture; that probably goes a long way toward explaining the likes of Muslim Rage Boy."

Thanks, Hellbender! Abuse of women and children under Islam is horrific. It's got to hurt.

Muslims are also far more monstrous due to their truly evil governments almost everywhere. Get rid of the dictatorships like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. and the Muslim love for jihad will fall by maybe 99%!

10 posted on 01/25/2010 6:30:02 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: James C. Bennett
"Islam is a deadly, cancerous ideology, and everything in it is designed towards seeking world domination."

You got it! :-) What a shame Obama, and all our other political and intellectual leaders, are so politically correct and multi-cultural as to be utter fools here.

11 posted on 01/25/2010 6:33:19 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Zanton

Bump for later


12 posted on 01/25/2010 6:34:11 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Darksheare
"Who else do we know listed as being a master of deceit?"

Well, all the other intellectual "liberators" associated with socialism and fascism were, not just ignorant, but wildly deceptive: Marx, Lenin, Mao, Wilson, Mussolini, Hitler, Franco.

13 posted on 01/25/2010 6:38:22 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Venturer
"Why do you think Islam is growing so fast in America’s prisons among the Monsters imprisoned there?"

Well, I think this is just ignorance and laziness, coupled with standard, dreadful political correctness and multi-culturalism. Basically we allow this evil to be planted and thrive in our prisons -- instead of banning it like communism and fascism. There aren't enough imams to go around in America, so we allow the Saudis to supply them. And the Saudis are like super-Muslims with their Wahabi belief in super-jihad and super-sharia. :-(

14 posted on 01/25/2010 6:43:47 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: fish hawk
"Of these organizations Islam, Neo Nazis, KKK, and all other radical groups, I think Islam is the most evil. They are more fanatic and world wide. The most harmful group to America on the local level is without a doubt the ACLU."

Well, I agree with everything except that last sentence. The ACLU does some harm to freedom and America -- in complex and subtle ways. But mostly they're the good guys! The key to defeating Islam is telling the truth about their ideology -- not suppressing Muslim civil liberties.

15 posted on 01/25/2010 6:49:49 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Cacique
"Islamia Delenda Est."

Beautiful! :-)

16 posted on 01/25/2010 6:51:57 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Zanton

After I read your comment I said, this person is a Libertarian and probably a Lawyer. I was right on one but the Lawyer part is not on your profile page. Am I right on that too? You guys are so easy to spot. Like a turd in a bucket of milk.


17 posted on 01/25/2010 6:57:50 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: fish hawk

Don’t you want to ask me if I’m a Jew? ;-)


18 posted on 01/25/2010 7:03:00 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Zanton
The Jewish and Christian holy books have plenty of bad quotes themselves

The Bible is full of stories of death and bad behavior. But the Bible doesn’t command us to do those things, as the Koran does. Killing is the nature of their religion. You see the first example played out today in Islamic countries. Somali adulterer stoned to death

The example of Mohamed on forgivness Sahih Muslim, Book 17: 4206

There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.

The example of Jesus on forgivness (John 8:1-11)

But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?" They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. Straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."

19 posted on 01/25/2010 7:04:05 PM PST by FatherofFive (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud that Massachusettes is part of the United States!)
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That makes no difference to me. I'm a Christian and love the Jews and support Israel. Matter of fact I could exchange Benyamin Netanyahu for the idiot we have in the white house I would do it in a second. You didn't answer my question, are you a Lawyer? If you are ashamed to answer, I understand.
20 posted on 01/25/2010 7:13:57 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: Zanton
The key to defeating Islam is telling the truth about their ideology -- not suppressing Muslim civil liberties.

YOU, Zanton - are right about this...

21 posted on 01/25/2010 7:16:35 PM PST by GOPJ (Happy Anniversary Barack! - - - Love, Massachusetts - - - FreeperGOPsterinMA)
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To: FatherofFive
"Killing is the nature of their religion....

"The example of Mohamed on forgiveness Sahih Muslim, Book 17: 4206

"There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried."

It defies belief that Muslims actually cite this story in their "teachings," and think it somehow reflects positively on their loathsome prophet and his heinous philosophy. That's why I contend Islam is a truly monstrous ideology which is only really made for human monsters.

22 posted on 01/26/2010 12:18:17 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: fish hawk

You can’t bait me.


23 posted on 01/26/2010 12:20:22 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: GOPJ

Thanks, GOPJ! Pretty much my best attempt at telling the pure and complete truth about Islam was on 9/11 of 2007 (if memory serves) and is located here: http://liberalinstitute.com/TheWarOnIslam.html


24 posted on 01/26/2010 12:27:25 PM PST by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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Ha ha you just answered the question.


25 posted on 01/26/2010 12:48:52 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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