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Ron Paul People (Southern Avenger)
American Conservative ^ | 2010-02-22 | Jack Hunter aka Southern Avenger

Posted on 02/22/2010 11:33:11 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: Shery
That is why Paul sees nothing wrong with abortion, and supports it.

If you're going to attack Paul, and it's not as if there aren't legitimate reasons to do so regarding national defense, at least try to be factual.

Ron Paul is not pro-abortion.

- Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008)
- Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008)
- Get the federal government out of abortion decision. (Nov 2007)
- Delivered 4000 babies; & assuredly life begins at conception. (Sep 2007)
- Sanctity of Life Act: remove federal jurisdiction. (Sep 2007)
- Nominate only judges who refuse to legislate from the bench. (Sep 2007)
- Save “snowflake babies”: no experiments on frozen embryos. (Sep 2007)
- No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)
- Embryonic stem cell programs not constitionally authorized. (May 2007)
- Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
- Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
- Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
- Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
- Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
- Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
- Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
- Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
- Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
- Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
- Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
- No federal funding of abortion, and pro-life. (Dec 2000)
- Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)

21 posted on 02/23/2010 3:06:45 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: ChrisInAR

There is no doubt that both the libertarian and conservatives share a desire for limited government. For some libertarians, the ideal government can be so limited, that they are closer to being anarchists, just as Reagan pointed out.

It’s kinda like Baptists. There are several types which share some basic tenets, but have differences. There are obvious differneces between the two political philosophies which share some classical liberal ideas. Are you saying that conservatives and libertarians are the exact same on every issue?


22 posted on 02/23/2010 3:14:03 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: All

found a 2007 Ron Paul Tea Party video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0h69EazA0M

Beck mentioned the Ron Paul Tea Party on #7 youtube video, from 2007.


23 posted on 02/23/2010 3:23:26 AM PST by Irenic
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To: RegulatorCountry

We need a Ron Paul who understands the disease that is islam.


24 posted on 02/23/2010 3:31:51 AM PST by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: ChrisInAR

“I have no problem w/ what Paul said about Reagan”

We know that here at FR, because we know that RonPaul people are not conservative.

LOL, “Reagan lost his bonafides”....

Enjoy your 1-2% in the real election.


25 posted on 02/23/2010 4:55:42 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll vote 4 conservatives...Mitt won't get my vote)
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To: Therapsid
We need a Ron Paul who understands the disease that is islam

He understands islam just fine. I've never heard him say once that "islam is a religion of peace".

I remember him advocating (and voting for) crushing the Taliban gov't that allowed terrorist attacks to be planned and launched from Afghanistan.

I remember him criticizing idiotic invasions and occupations of muslim nations that didn't pose a threat to us, thus radicalizing tens of millions of muzzies.

I remember him pointing out the stupidity of destroying muslim infrastructure and then rebuilding it, time after time.

I believe he is totally against things Bush did, like starting the program that imports muslims from terrorist-supporting countries into the US, or leaving the borders wide open to anyone who wants to walk across, which leaves this nation open to attack from inside.

I think he knows that muzzies are like primitive, stupid and dangerous animals - the ones not bothering you, you leave alone. The ones that do attack you, you pound mercilessly, time and time again as required, until they finally learn to associate the terrorist attacks they launch with death and destruction of themselves, their families and neighbors, along with their possessions and other property.

In other words, I think he believes in going back to the policies that western civilization used to keep the cancer of islam in check in the period between when islam was driven out of europe in the 1400's to when the west empowered muslims by sending them trillions of dollars in oil money and allowed them complete access to our technology, education and very nations.

26 posted on 02/23/2010 5:31:16 AM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: Stentor

ROTFLMBO!


27 posted on 02/23/2010 5:44:08 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: rbmillerjr

Can you give me links? Couldn’t find it on YouTube. I’d love to drop that like a 16 ton weight on the Paul psychos around here.


28 posted on 02/23/2010 5:55:48 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: ChrisInAR; Allegra

Why does having a semi-pro-Constitution & Blame America First President bother you so much?

There, fixed it for you.

Be careful, Allegra, next he’ll be asking you when you stopped beating your husband.


29 posted on 02/23/2010 6:01:26 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: ChrisInAR
I have no problem w/ what Paul said about Reagan.

Well, doesn't that say it all.

30 posted on 02/23/2010 6:03:55 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: ChrisInAR

There’s a difference between the philosophy of libertarianism and the batch of goofballs and malcontents who call themselves Libertarians these days.

For example, true libertarianism wouldn’t be on the NARAL side of the abortion issue.


31 posted on 02/23/2010 6:08:57 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Brugmansian
But wait! There is more! If Ron Paul were strong on defense, much of his support would evaporate overnight. Why? Because he would not be useful to the left. The media would drop him. We would not see threads on leftist forums saying "Please Mother Earth, Let Ron Paul Win the GOP Nomination"

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You got that right.

32 posted on 02/23/2010 6:14:41 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; wagglebee

He’s not pro life, either.


33 posted on 02/23/2010 6:15:54 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Someday all Republicans will get it. Whoever in the party gets the most media attention, whoever the media touts as a challenge to the party in a positive way —be they McCain or Ron Paul—whoever the leftist forums want Republicans to elect or nominate is, with roughly a 99.99% certainly, exactly who the GOP should dump.


34 posted on 02/23/2010 6:21:41 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
I've never heard him say once that "islam is a religion of peace"

Blaming America for Al Qaida attacks is as bad or worse.

I remember him advocating (and voting for) crushing the Taliban gov't that allowed terrorist attacks to be planned and launched from Afghanistan.

Yes, but you left something out, didn't you? Or maybe, like so many of his supporters, you never even considered it.

Ron Paul has been saying for years that the authorization that allowed us to go into Iraq was unconstitutional, but in 2001 he voted for an authorization that had every single flaw he's cited as unconstitutional or was even worse. Heck, the 2001 authorization didn't even mention Al Qaida or Afghanistan, but he voted for it.

This guy's just a Beltway gameplayer. He calls other GOP members enemies of the Constitution because they voted for OIF, but when the chips were down he voted the same way to save his butt. If he had voted against the authorization, even his district wouldn't have tolerated it.

Ron Paul is a poser. When you RP supporters are mystified as to why he doesn't have more support on FR, that's your answer...we can smell the BS. He's just Newt Gingrich with libertarian flavor, another beltway insider who runs to the head of the movement to declare himself the only viable leader.

I think he knows that muzzies are like primitive, stupid and dangerous animals - the ones not bothering you, you leave alone.

Which is why he thinks it's no big deal if a "primitive, stupid and dangerous animal" like Ahmadinejad has a nuclear arsenal at his disposal. Yeah, he really understands radical Islam.

35 posted on 02/23/2010 6:22:55 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Brugmansian

Agreed.


36 posted on 02/23/2010 6:23:17 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

What do you mean?


37 posted on 02/23/2010 6:23:50 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Brugmansian

100% correct.


38 posted on 02/23/2010 6:24:41 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

If we look at just these votes, he is not pro life.

- Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
- Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)

- Voted YES on funding for health providers who don’t provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)

- Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)

- Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)


39 posted on 02/23/2010 6:32:05 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The only thing I have against Ron Paul being the 2012 nominee is his age, and I’ll accept that. Every other person mentioned who might be electable is worse — way worse, usually.

Paul is the *only* one I trust to seriously try to rein in out-of-control spending.

Palin isn’t ready to be president, and probably never will be.


40 posted on 02/23/2010 7:01:10 AM PST by postoak
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