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The Mommy State

Posted on 04/05/2010 10:33:12 AM PDT by Zanton

It's sloppy and incorrect to call Obama and his radical leftist allies "socialists." A handful are, no doubt. But most of them don't want to nationalize anything. Not even health care!

They do, however, seek to significantly expand the size and power of the state. They do quietly seek to have a friendly, European-style Leviathan monitor and control business and the Individual a great deal more than currently.

And it's all for our own good. The Obamanites fundamentally think they know more than the citizenry who elected them, and whom they theoretically serve. And, of course, they're morally superior. So they want to strongly rule on our behalf.

But the Obama Revolution doesn't truly aim to seize and own the banks, credit institutions, insurance companies, car manufacturers, hospitals, pharmacies, and other parts of our once-proud, once-free, once-dynamic, once-capitalist economy. It merely wishes to regulate the hell out of them.

The key idea here is control by Big Brother. The key idea here is fascism.

Maybe this is progress. After having been almost tortured for the past 160 years by Karl Marx and government-owned businesses, maybe grossly overregulating products and services is better than outright confiscating them.

But this state behavior is still tyranny. And it's still highly destructive to both the economy and the society.

And potentially this domination by the mega-state is just as immoral and mindless as overt seizure. The economy -- and large parts of the society -- still end up being government-run. The state still ends up dictating.

But rather than call this new version of statist and Orwellian control "socialism," maybe instead we should call it "mommy statism" -- since you need Big Momma's permission before you can pretty much do anything economically, or even personally.

Under Obama, Big Business, small businesses, and the Individual are no longer trusted as much to mind their own business and live their own lives. We're no longer regarded as adults -- as capable of making our own decisions economically, or in life.

Americans are being infantilized. We're being placed considerably more under the thumb of our doting, wise, maternal state. Ever more benevolent mandates and dictates come from Leviathan.

Under Obama, a loving Mommy now helpfully guides our business and personal lives much more. In the Obama-nation, we're all closely-monitored and tightly controlled -- for our own good, and the greater good -- by a sweet, kind, adoring, government Mommy!


TOPICS: General Discussion; Issues
KEYWORDS: libertarianism; liberty; nannystate; objectivism

1 posted on 04/05/2010 10:33:12 AM PDT by Zanton
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To: Zanton

Beware Big Mother


2 posted on 04/05/2010 10:34:43 AM PDT by Lexington Green (By any means necessary....)
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To: Lexington Green

Break one of her rules and you’ll be rooming with “Big Daddy”.


3 posted on 04/05/2010 10:40:09 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Zanton
While you are correct in fact, the truth is most people do not, will not take the time energy to determine exactly whether Obama is Marxist, Communist, Socialist, etc, it is plain he is against Aamerica and what has made America great. He ignores the Constitution, uses Executive orders in rampant ways never intended and unconstitutionally.

Thus he is making his own rules as he goes, using all his majority POWER and forcing on America, what the people do not want.

God help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen.

4 posted on 04/05/2010 10:43:41 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Zanton

This author is nuts, not socialism but big mommism? Same thing.


5 posted on 04/05/2010 10:51:53 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Zanton
What you are describing is indeed socialism. Under 'national socialism' ownership of the means of production is left in private hands with regulation and planning a state function,whereas communism abolishes all private ownership and holds the means of production as a state asset. National socialism is exemplified by NAZI Germany where private industry remained in private hands but was severely regulated by state planning boards.

Regards,
GtG

6 posted on 04/05/2010 10:56:12 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Zanton
Big Bad Momma
7 posted on 04/05/2010 11:05:15 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Zanton
The worse nanny-stater of them all ...


Daddy Bloomberg

8 posted on 04/05/2010 11:06:13 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

worse = worst


9 posted on 04/05/2010 11:06:50 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: geologist
While you are correct in fact, the truth is most people do not, will not take the time energy to determine exactly whether Obama is Marxist, Communist, Socialist, etc, it is plain he is against Aamerica and what has made America great. He ignores the Constitution, uses Executive orders in rampant ways never intended and unconstitutionally.

Barack Obama is a Big Brother nightmare! Sometimes fresh words and descriptions make people pay more attention. Right now I think the term "socialist" is a bit weak and off. I also ADORE the term "Nanny State fascist" to describe him!

10 posted on 04/05/2010 11:07:37 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
"...not socialism but big mommism? Same thing."

Yeah, but I think "Mommy State" is a phrase with a really nasty edge to it. HUGELY insulting. ;-)

11 posted on 04/05/2010 11:10:31 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Zanton

The more I read The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek, the more scarier the present situation becomes.


12 posted on 04/05/2010 11:12:35 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
"What you are describing is indeed socialism. Under 'national socialism' ownership of the means of production is left in private hands with regulation and planning a state function,whereas communism abolishes all private ownership and holds the means of production as a state asset. National socialism is exemplified by NAZI Germany where private industry remained in private hands but was severely regulated by state planning boards."

Good point! Altho' I think people use most of these words in loose and imprecise ways. The best term for the World War II era Germans still seems to be "fascist." But all of these political ideals in their various forms -- communism, socialism, and fascism -- need to be brutally crushed.

So too 1930s New Deal and 1960s Great Society WELFARE STATISM!

13 posted on 04/05/2010 11:17:03 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Lexington Green
"Beware Big Mother."

Mommy will spanky. And not the kinky fun kind either! ;-)

14 posted on 04/05/2010 11:18:40 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Zanton

It’s sloppy and incorrect to call Obama and his radical leftist allies “socialists.” A handful are, no doubt. But most of them don’t want to nationalize anything. Not even health care!

Socialist, Communist, Fascists, Thugs, ASSWIPES. Who cares what they are called. They are simply traitors to the ideals of America and the freedoms and liberties that this Nation was founded on.


15 posted on 04/05/2010 11:24:06 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA
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To: Zanton
Yeah, but I think "Mommy State" is a phrase with a really nasty edge to it. HUGELY insulting. ;-)

You got that right!


16 posted on 04/05/2010 11:24:53 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: GOP_Lady
"The worst nanny-stater of them all ...Daddy Bloomberg."

I agree. The New York City mayor is a do-gooder dolt and fascist from hell! Almost 100% oblivious to the ideal of freedom. :-(

17 posted on 04/05/2010 11:25:00 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
"The more I read The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek, the more scarier the present situation becomes."

Yep! That's a great book. I read it 30 years ago, but need to revisit it. I'm currently rereading Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Also a great book about liberty! :-).

18 posted on 04/05/2010 11:29:27 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
"Socialist, Communist, Fascists, Thugs, ASSWIPES. Who cares what they are called. They are simply traitors to the ideals of America and the freedoms and liberties that this Nation was founded on."

Yeah, but getting the words right is often hugely important. Precise language DESTROYS ignorance and lies -- DESTROYS tyranny and evil. Truth is the most powerful force in the universe.

19 posted on 04/05/2010 11:34:48 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Elderberry

I wouldn’t mind being personally abused and “punished” by Angie in her prime! ;-)


20 posted on 04/05/2010 11:38:18 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: RockyMtnMan
"Break one of her rules and you’ll be rooming with 'Big Daddy'."

That doesn't sound like much fun! ;-)

21 posted on 04/05/2010 11:41:41 AM PDT by Zanton (a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
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To: Zanton
I think people use most of these words in loose and imprecise ways.

Words have meaning and therein resides their power. If we begin mislabeling ideologies we shall soon lose sight of the actual forces buffeting the body politic.

The best term for the World War II era Germans still seems to be "fascist." But all of these political ideals in their various forms -- communism, socialism, and fascism -- need to be brutally crushed.

I disagree, communism and life on an Israeli Kibbutz are differentiated mainly by the presence of an overriding religious philosophy. Socialism works well when practiced in a homogeneous culture with little immigration pressure. On the other hand pure democracy rapidly leads to oppression. In my opinion communism, socialism, and fascism are related only in so much as they are all emblematic of a 'cult of personality' where an iron fisted dictator exercises power through a massive bureaucracy. Such systems are not overly stable and tend to disintegrate over time as corruption eats away at the structure.

Regards,
GtG

22 posted on 04/05/2010 12:40:04 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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Nanny State fascist ... I like it too.

God help us in our day in Jesus name, amen.

23 posted on 04/07/2010 7:53:58 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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