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Karl Rove Has to Be Kidding (Southern Avenger) (GOP is using and abusing conservatives)
American Conservative ^ | April 8, 2010 | Jack Hunter aka Southern Avenger

Posted on 04/10/2010 11:10:39 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Why in the hell is Karl Rove on my TV? Why is Karl Rove on my radio? Why is Karl Rove on anywhere? Unless he’s on trial or being interrogated, I can’t imagine of what possible use this George W. Bush relic could be to conservatives and yet he’s everywhere, hocking his book “Courage and Consequence: My Life as a Conservative in the Fight,” a title as credibly right-wing as Stephen Colbert and as historically accurate as the movie “Titanic.” Craig Shirley and former Reagan official Donald Devine summed up Rove’s duplicity well in this week’s Washington Post:

“From William F. Buckley Jr. to Barry Goldwater to Ronald Reagan, the creators of the modern conservative movement always taught that excessive concentration of power in government leads inevitably to corruption and the diminution of personal freedoms. But while Rove credits these leaders for shaping his early political views — “at the age of thirteen, I was wild for Barry Goldwater,” he writes — he did not pursue their values while in the White House. To the contrary, as the chief political architect of the Bush presidency, Rove was instrumental in directing an administration most notable for its enormous expansion of national government.”

Given his big government record, you’d think Rove might be treated as a Republican Judas by conservatives, and yet Rush Limbaugh-who rarely has guests-gave the former Bush adviser a full hour to promote his book, and Rove appears on Sean Hannity’s program so often you’d think he was Alan Colmes’ replacement.

Are these conservatives kidding?

The inability of mainstream conservatives to separate their philosophy from the Republican Party is nothing new, but the degree to which the GOP can expand government without any retribution from supposedly conservative pundits continues to boggle the mind. One must assume that for many right-wingers, conservatism would no longer be in “exile,” to use Hannity’s radio rhetoric, if only President Obama and the Democrats could be driven out of office and Rove and his Republican friends could be returned to it. History has already proven them wrong and yet the mainstream Right continues to operate on this bizarre premise, whether lining up to cheer debt-doubling, TARP-voting, No Child Left Behind-promoting Republicans like John Boehner, simply for yelling in his opposition to Obamacare, or Rove, for simply being a Republican. For some, this is what conservatism now means–Republican victories and Democrat defeats-with the net, conservative results being completely irrelevant.

So attached are many right-wingers to the GOP that it’s worth noting how often they ignore less party-oriented, yet considerably viable, conservative efforts. For example, with the passage of national healthcare legislation being a primary focus of grassroots anger, as many as fourteen states have filed lawsuits declaring Obamacare to be in violation of the 10th amendment, with some even threatening nullification of what they consider overreaching federal legislation.

And yet, you don’t hear as much about states rights’ initiatives in the mainstream conservative media as you do Republican “efforts” to repeal Obamacare, something a betting man might give much lower odds. Why? Could it be that states rights’ initiatives don’t do much in the way of promoting the national Republican Party, and therefore become an afterthought?

Another example would be the contentious GOP primary race for US Senate in Kentucky, where Tea Party champion Rand Paul, son of Ron, is waging a successful campaign against Trey Grayson, a former Bill Clinton Democrat. If Paul wins, he could feasibly become the most conservative member of the Senate, even to the Right of the man currently seen by many as the holder of that title, Jim DeMint. Yet, Paul’s name is hardly ever mentioned on talk radio or FOX News. Why? After all, Paul has been endorsed by talk radio darling Sarah Palin and even frequent Hannity guest Steve Forbes. Could it be because a Paul win is not what the GOP establishment prefers? Writes the Washington Post’s Chris Cilizza: “A Paul win would function as a direct repudiation of Republican leadership in Washington – Grayson is seen as the handpicked choice of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell although McConnell hasn’t formally endorsed in the contest – and would quantify just how much power the anti-Washington/Tea Party/Libertarian wing of the party carries.”

That a liberal Republican Senator like Massachusetts’ Scott Brown can receive weeks of heavy campaign coverage on talk radio and a staunch conservative like Paul is roundly ignored, is something that makes perfect sense once one realizes that the mainstream Right’s first loyalty is to the Republican establishment and its agenda, not conservative principle, per se. “Bush is among the most conservative presidents of the modern age,” says Rove with a straight face, and not only do few mainstream conservatives question such absurdity, but instead join Rove in defending one of the most statist Republican presidents in American history. Are such conservatives kidding? Apparently so and transparently so, though so far gone in their partisanship-it has likely become impossible for them to tell the difference.


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1 posted on 04/10/2010 11:10:39 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead; Bokababe; dcwusmc; djsherin
Another example would be the contentious GOP primary race for US Senate in Kentucky, where Tea Party champion Rand Paul, son of Ron, is waging a successful campaign against Trey Grayson, a former Bill Clinton Democrat. If Paul wins, he could feasibly become the most conservative member of the Senate, even to the Right of the man currently seen by many as the holder of that title, Jim DeMint. Yet, Paul’s name is hardly ever mentioned on talk radio or FOX News. Why? After all, Paul has been endorsed by talk radio darling Sarah Palin and even frequent Hannity guest Steve Forbes. Could it be because a Paul win is not what the GOP establishment prefers? Writes the Washington Post’s Chris Cilizza: “A Paul win would function as a direct repudiation of Republican leadership in Washington – Grayson is seen as the handpicked choice of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell although McConnell hasn’t formally endorsed in the contest – and would quantify just how much power the anti-Washington/Tea Party/Libertarian wing of the party carries.”

Of possible interest.

2 posted on 04/10/2010 11:11:10 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
Went to your link.

How much money does George Soros provide?

B. Hussein Obama would be proud.

This post is BS as well as the site.

Go there yourself, go to archive. and take a look at the images.

Not one positive image of what it means to be a conservative.

3 posted on 04/10/2010 11:27:00 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: rabscuttle385

Silence you peasant! Us Republicans will use power how we see fit and enrich ourselves in the process. If it will shut you up we will make some noise about abortion or homosexuals but cutting government’s size? Never!


4 posted on 04/10/2010 11:29:21 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: highpockets

It’s the attack of the paulistinians!


5 posted on 04/10/2010 11:40:53 PM PDT by Crim
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To: rabscuttle385

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6 posted on 04/10/2010 11:41:05 PM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: SoConPubbie; SoCalPol; Lakeshark; Chunga; Allegra; rintense; ohioWfan; rabscuttle385

Saturday night PAULTARD alert.

Jack Hunter....the radio-active-radioguy who fancies himself the “Southern Avenger.”


7 posted on 04/10/2010 11:50:53 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

” For some, this is what conservatism now means–Republican victories and Democrat defeats-with the net, conservative results being completely irrelevant.”

Well, I can’t help but notice that it was Republicans who opposed Obama care and weakened it significantly.

It is almost all Republicans who are suing to overturn it.

Without Republicans our Supreme Court would be left of the ninth circuit.

I would hardly call these things “irrelevant.”


8 posted on 04/10/2010 11:52:03 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: rabscuttle385

9 posted on 04/10/2010 11:53:47 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

10 posted on 04/10/2010 11:55:59 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

Ron Paul: Barack Obama is Not a Socialist

In the technical sense, in the economic definition, he is not a socialist,” the Texas Republican said to a smattering of applause at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference.

“He’s a corporatist,” Paul quickly added, meaning the president takes “care of corporations and corporations take over and run the country.”

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Come again? LOL.

Can't say Marxist or Socialist, can ya, Ronald Paul?

OOOOOOOPS


11 posted on 04/11/2010 12:05:50 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ah yes, Karl Rove, Bush’s Brain.

The guy who promoted Medicare Part D, steel tariffs, No Child Left Behind, the K Street Project, and a host of other “compassionate conservative” projects to assure a “permanent Republican majority”. The guy who encouraged Bush to throw his support behind Arlen Specter and other progressive Republicans.

How’s that workin’ for ya, Republicans?


12 posted on 04/11/2010 12:12:27 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Skepolitic
Jack hunter is just another LeftyTarian that never misses an opportunity to bash Conservatives....however I tend to agree with him that Rove used Conservatives as a doormat. Rove’s love of Illegal Immigrant voters and the lack of a strong push back from the GWB administration were 2 very damaging failures and contributory to the massive rebuke of the Rocky Republicans in ‘06, the nomination of dumbo McCain in 08 and the current Marxist in the WH...I just do-not get the love of the TeeVee cons for this prick!
13 posted on 04/11/2010 12:29:23 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: onyx

I notice you have no ACTUAL, FACTUAL refutation of his arguments, do you? Is there a reason for that, you know, like he’s right or something? If he’s wrong, how about providing some FACTS to show it instead of just hurling invective and unwarranted insults. Thanks in advance.


14 posted on 04/11/2010 1:05:07 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: dcwusmc

Right about what? A malcontent that endorses the likes of Ronald Paul who endorses the likes of Adam Kokesh? You guys are silly beyond redemption. It’s quite enough to ridicule, because you’re all content to ignore the pesky facts and truth about your guy.


15 posted on 04/11/2010 1:12:51 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Persevero

Harriet Myers.


16 posted on 04/11/2010 3:16:15 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Skepolitic

ROFLMAO!!!

Every time one of you lefties starts in on Rove, I get the biggest laugh. He bested you guys so many times in so many ways, you become incensed every time his name comes up. Watching you guys gnash your remaining teeth over Rove just tickles me to no end. Oh, you tried to get him over that Plame scam and succeeded in exposing your vile dishonesty and the extent to which the press carries your water. How’d that work out for ya’? I’ll tell you. The people see through all of it, or at least the 70% or so with more than two firing brain cells.

Punk, go suck zero.....again.


17 posted on 04/11/2010 3:48:44 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Skepolitic; onyx; iopscusa; chilltherats
Yeah, Rove is 'a magnificent bastard'!

Karl Rove: Sarah Palin isn’t quite ready to be President

18 posted on 04/11/2010 4:03:53 AM PDT by raybbr (I hate B(ig) H(ead) Obama)
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To: rabscuttle385

The RINOS and RATS should form a new party with a pack of dogs as it’s symbol since they are so fond of kissing each others’ axx.


19 posted on 04/11/2010 4:09:13 AM PDT by Waco (Kalifonia don't need no stenkin oil and no stenkin revenu)
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To: onyx

ROFL. Thanks for that. I truly laughed out loud. Especially after recalling the last run in with a paulbot.


20 posted on 04/11/2010 4:35:00 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Leisler

“Harriet Myers.”

My listing a few major accomplishments of recent Republican administrations did not mean that every single decision they made was good.

NO politician’s every single decision was good. Come on now.


21 posted on 04/11/2010 8:24:30 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: highpockets

Thanks I just glanced at this and my first reaction was its BS


22 posted on 04/11/2010 8:30:08 AM PDT by woofie
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To: rabscuttle385
If Paul wins, he could feasibly become the most conservative member of the Senate...Paul has been endorsed by talk radio darling Sarah Palin

LOL!

Read your own posted article, Rabs.

23 posted on 04/11/2010 8:54:05 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Repeat Offender

Actually, Conservatives have been ‘used and abused’ by the GOP for a decade or more.

Once upon a time in a world far away we had Conservative Republicans and Democrats. A world that only exists in the memory of those old enough to have lived through it.

Never more, I’m thinking.


24 posted on 04/11/2010 10:20:44 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: rabscuttle385
The GoP WunderKind.. criticized? I'm shocked.

no, not really.

25 posted on 04/11/2010 10:25:47 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Skepolitic

IBTZ!!!!!


26 posted on 04/11/2010 12:42:15 PM PDT by Crim
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To: chilltherats

I like that cute little fuzzball, Karl Rove.


27 posted on 05/07/2010 6:21:38 AM PDT by altura
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To: raybbr; Skepolitic; onyx; iopscusa; chilltherats
I have often been left speechless in the face of Karl Rove's awesome talents.

Here is a man who can spend $100s of millions on election campaigns that turn a Republican landslide into a cliffhanger that ha to be settled in court. A guy that can blow the TV budget on a production house run by a hardened Democrats, whose producers were all DNC spies and who turned out TV ads that would shame a low end West Virginia Used Car dealer. A guy who blew millions on Hispanic outreach programs, telling us that illegal Latinos are the "Republicans of the Future."

But the man's true genius lies in getting Reuplicans, supposedly the party of business, to give him many more millions to achieve no, or negative results in campaign after after campaign, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. No wonder the GOP is called "The Stupid Party."

Never in the history of human endeavour have so many given so much to such an anus who squandered impressive resources, time after time, to achieve few, or no results.

Karl Rove's Legacy: You see it every day on TV, Your sitting POTUS, The Mombasa Moonbeam, the one, the only, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (A working title, we have no idea who or what the guy actually is, beyond something Karl left us with when he cleaned out his office after that marvelous McCain Campaign.)

28 posted on 05/25/2011 12:41:35 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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