Posted on 06/01/2010 1:41:24 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
“We are talking about foreign treaties / interventionsim though, no ?”
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Sure, but shouldn’t the treaties entered into by the US govt be Constitutional?
I think what Ron Paul says is that the US should stop trying to be the world’s police force. He says he would like to withdraw from places like Germany and S. Korea.
I tend to agree with him on this.
The question is what do we do to defend ourselves against Islamic fascism.
We must continue to defend ourselves, but nation building is not only far too costly, but outside the limits of our Constitutionally limited govt, not to mention it doesn’t seem to be working.
“If you hit someone and kill their family, they will hate you and probably hit you back in the future”.—Ron Paul.
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Are you saying ^that^ isn’t true?
more from the same article:
“America first. That is what Ron Paul’s national defense proposal is all about. And with America he means all Americans, not just the elite. If elected President, Ron Paul will continue his efforts to secure our borders, hunt down the 9/11 terrorist planners (who are still at large), safely withdraw our troops from Iraq and other countries around the world, and finally overhaul the intelligence apparatus in cooperation with intelligence professionals rather than political opportunists.”
http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/national-defense/
I don’t see a problem with this stance.
“And portraying Paul as somehow being anti-black is no different than conservatives who portray antiwar protesters as anti-American”
This garbage statement needs a barf alert. That is an absolute and utter slander against conservatives.
Au contraire libertarians are all in favor of you defending yourself and our country defending itself. What we are against is running around the world being everyone’s cop, international meals on wheels and relief organization. The purpose of a military is to kill people and break things. If someone attacks us we go kill and break them until then we leave well enough alone.
“The Libertarian belief in weak national security...”
“Non-interventionist policy does not equate to weak.”
It is if you don’t stop the world’s bullies from going after other countries and killing the innocent. It makes your enemies stronger and your friends weaker.
Would YOU have kicked Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait in 1990?
the ‘non-intreventionist’ would have let him stay, and he’d be the most powerful evil despot today and not a dead dictator.
“But to claim talk-radio has been critical of Paul is really a stretch.”
Actually it is a LIE.
Conservative website Redstate - conservatives - went to bat for Rand Paul. So did Sen DeMint. So did a lot of conservatives on talk radio and in columns and other media.
and as you note - “He has also been very vocally defended by no less a mainstream conservative radio talker than Mark Levin.”
He wouldnt have won without that help.
This whole column has slanders and just plain stupidities. not only is this guy smearing conservatives, he is stupidly dragging out the 1964 civil right issue - one that Rand Paul wants to lay to rest.
and btw, since when does moderate Frum represent conservatives? He doesnt!
Ron Paul’s biggest enemy in 2008 was the caravan of kooks who followed him, bashing anyone supportive of GWOT as warmongerers, and even touting 9/11 kookiness. These are leftists in libertarian drag.
Here is Rand Paul - MAJOR TWO PARTY CANDIDATE - in need of a boost, and this idiot says: “This ridiculous, two-party status quo restricts substantive debate, impedes real reform, and begs for revolution.” ... OH REALLY?!? Didn’t Rand Paul just WIN!?!? It’s as if to shout “look at me, I’m an extremist”.
If you want to help Rand Paul win, writing stupid columns like this is NOT IT.
Well said.
Right, so they would have let Saddam keep Kuwait, let Hitler keep Europe, let North Korea turn South Korea communist in 1950, and would have done nothing while thugs ruined Grenada in 1984.
We also would have done nothing against the menace of international Communism under the Soviet Union from 1945 to 1989.
Right?
Correction: Those who want to further bust the budget and milk the taxpayers in a utopian effort to police the world are the true advocates of "weak national security."
“I think what Ron Paul says is that the US should stop trying to be the world’s police force.”
So when North Korea invades our friends in South Korea, we stand back and let the South Koreans die without lifting a finger to help.
Is that his position?
LOL. Hussein a creaky Mussolini lite anti-Iran, secularist would be a "powerful evil despot?" Do you really believe that Wilsonian fairy tale? Had we stayed out and we'd be more a than a trillion dollars richer and a pro-Iran/non-secularist regime would not now rule Iraq. Of course, the King of Kuwait might no longer be able to add to his harem....but that's none of our beezwax.
Scott Brown took exactly one vote on a major position to betray so many of the FReepers who sent him money. To most of us, it was disappointing, but no surprise.
Rand seems to be pro-life where his father is a pacifist dissenter from the war to actually protect the babies. Rand seems to be pro-marriage where his father favors fudgepacker "rights" as evidenced by his vote on the DADT repeal. If Rand proves untrustworthy on these major issues, his career will be a very short and unpleasant one since Kentucky does not share Galveston's water system. Goldwater was a libertine imbecile and every bit as much a liar on baby-killing in his 1980 campaign as Ron Paul has turned out to be on so many issues. Unlike his father, Rand may even prove to oppose earmarks.
Well, as Sarah Palin says of her pal Rand Paul, "Hey, no one is perfect!"
I notice Levin went over to the dark side, but he has to go where Sarah goes. Sean Hannity has been similarly defensive of Rand Paul.
Thanks for finding that. It is also supportive of the Leftist anti-military, anti-war Code Pinkos. This is what the libertarians are all about, folks. Wake up!!
Here is a refresher on Rand Paul’s similarity to Dad and alliance with military traitor Adam Kokesh: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2478123/posts
Doing what is right in your mind is not what the Constitution allows for.
The US Govt is limited in it’s powers for a reason.
You can’t pick and choose what policies the govt will adhere to the Constitution on.
Either we adhere to it, or we burn it.
Either it means something, or it is nothing more than a dusty old relic.
Well......
Which is it?
A republican of any sort winning a senate seat in Massachusetts is obviously a bit more important of a story than a republican winning a senate seat in Kentucky - much less a primary.
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