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Several good posts recently on FR concerning lying and deception as a permisable and desired reality within Islam...quotes abound in the Quran for Jihadi to exploit.

Another facet is *Extortion as a intereim reality between Al Harb [House of War] and subjugation.

Since Sept 11th the U.S. has been paying out way too much money to these savages..and getting nothing in return.

Heavy sigh,..Are we too soft and morally confused in this war on terror and ..Extorion /cash windfall thingy?

Ghost of Black Jack Pershing come and kick our butts..then crush the Jihadi like were supposed too : )

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My experience in most of the Third World, not just Muslim countries, is that lying is an accepted part of life. Gullible Westerners just don't believe someone could smile and speak earnestly while lying through their teeth. And its not just corruption. In a country like Thailand people are so darn polite they'd often rather lie than tell you bad news.

My understanding is that it is no sin to lie to an "infidel" or non-believer in the Muslim faith. Shoot, Muslims lie to each other all the time. Look at all the pious pro-Arab, anti-American platitudes that come out of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, while at the same time they are allied with the U.S. They just lie to keep their sheeple happy.