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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - M4 Sherman Medium Tank - Feb 24th, 2004
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Posted on 02/24/2004 12:03:03 AM PST by SAMWolf



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M4 Sherman Medium Tank




The U.S. Army M4 medium tank was specifically designed to favor speed and mobility over firepower. This was in accordance with U.S. Army doctrine that the tank would function as an infantry support weapon, and thus would have to be capable of keeping up with rapidly moving ground troops. To some extent, the M4 was not designed to fight other tanks.

Because of these design factors, the M4 was thinly armored and carried a small main gun. Compared to German armor, the M4 was clearly outmatched. The crews of M4 tanks were vulnerable to the superior penetrating fire of German tank guns, and were themselves hardly able to scratch the heavier armor of their German counterparts. What the M4s lacked in armor, firepower and survivability, they made up for in sheer numbers, a higher rate of fire, increased mobility, and much simpler maintenance. In late 1944 the M4 was outfitted with a 76mm gun, and its suspension system upgraded in early 1945.


The mid-production M4 medium tank. Notice the extra armor welded over the sponson ammunition racks and the front drivers' hoods


The Sherman name was a British designation, and while it was not part of the official name of the M4 tank, was commonly used and known among U.S. troops. The M4 was used by the U.S. Army, U.S. Marines, Britain, Canada and the Free French.

The M4 tank hull was used for a variety of vehicles, including the M32 tank recovery vehicle, M7B1 self-propelled howitzer, M10 Wolverine, and numerous British designs including the Firefly. For D-Day, one of the most significant variations was the amphibious DD Tank.


Sherman Firefly (M4A4 w/17 Pounder Gun)


Both the standard M4 and its DD version were inadequate for the close-support role that they were intended to fill on D-Day. One of the M4's few strengths, mobility, was restricted on the confined beaches of Normandy, and the weaknesses of its light armor and firepower were clearly evident. German defenders quickly attacked any tank that made it to shore, and many were destroyed before they could leave the beach or provide any support fire. The shingle at Omaha Beach was impassable by armor, and it was not until engineers could open up paths and the beach exits were secured that the M4 could make its way off the beach and make use of its maneuverability.


Sherman DD (Duplex-Drive) with screens down.


Ironically, the hedgehog obstacles that littered the beaches would later be used to help Allied tanks break through the numerous hedgerows that cross-crossed the Normandy countryside. Cut up and welded to the front of tanks, these chunks of metal allowed armor to rapidly slice through the hedgerows and quicken the Allied attack inland.


Sherman DD (Duplex-Drive) with screens up.


Between 1942 and 1945 11 production facilities manufactured almost 50,000 M4 Sherman tanks. Production orginally started at 1,000 tanks a month and was eventually upped to 2,000 tanks a month. Among the companies that produced the M4 Sherman were the Pressed Steel Car Co., Baldwin Locomotive Works, American Locomotive Co., Pullman Standard Car Co. and the Detroit Tank Arsenal. The production output of the M4 design was more than all of the tanks produced by both the British and the Germans during the war.


M4A1

The medium tank M4 was based on the medium tank M3, and the Sherman shared many components with the Lee. The M4 utilized the M3's suspension, lower hull, and power train.


M4A1


The M4A1's cast upper hull gave it distinctive rounded edges. This makes it the easiest of Sherman tanks to identify. Other identifying features of M4A1, which it shares with M4, are the rear of the tank and engine access panels. There are twin engine access doors in the rear hull and air cleaners at the top corners of these doors. M4A1 had twin square muffler tailpipes at the top of the rear hull above the air cleaners, a steel-covered air intake behind the turret, and solid engine access doors in the rear deck behind the turret.




Early Shermans--cast and welded hull--were built with twin fixed .30cal M1919A4 machine guns in the hull which were operated by the driver. These could be locked at any elevation between +8° and -6°. The driver's machine guns were eliminated on March 6, 1942. Also seen on early tanks were spoked idler and road wheels, three-piece differential and final drive housing, two fuel shutoff valves on the rear deck, removable headlights, vision slots for the drivers in the glacis plate, and the siren was placed on the left front fender or under a bracket just offset to the left of the glacis centerline.

On tanks with dry ammunition stowage, one-inch thick applique armor was welded over the sponson ammunition racks and to the turret on the right of the gun mount where interior armor had been ground away to make room for the gunner's controls. Heavy-duty suspension bogies, with the return roller on the rear of the bogie instead of on top like earlier bogies, were introduced by summer 1942. The new bogies had 8" (20cm) diameter springs, 1" (2.5cm) larger than the springs of the earlier type. Originally, there was only one turret hatch (the commander's) in the 75mm gun turret, but a small oval hatch was introduced for the loader in December 1943. Retrofit kits were developed for tanks built before the loader's hatch was designed. A cupola for the tank commander later replaced his circular split hatch. The main gun in the first M4A1s built was the 75mm M2, which was shorter than the M3 and needed double counterweights on the end of the barrel to be compatible with the tank's gyrostabilizer.



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To: Darksheare
I'd wear it sideways

There's always one in every crowd, only normally it's me. We seem to have two at the Foxhole

161 posted on 02/24/2004 3:32:15 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf; Samwise; Darksheare
I'm kinda fond of this style.


162 posted on 02/24/2004 3:33:32 PM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)
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To: snippy_about_it

Isreali "Super" Sherman - Sinai Desert

163 posted on 02/24/2004 3:34:47 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
*LOL!*
YUP.
In my unit, we had 7 of us.
When the Smoke needed something *cough* 'other' done, he'd call us out to do the 'other' tasks.

Of course, EVERYONE knew we'd been called for the tasks due to this statement from the Smoke: "Where's my criminals?"
164 posted on 02/24/2004 3:35:33 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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To: Professional Engineer
The flat flap goes in front with a skull and crossbones on it, right?
165 posted on 02/24/2004 3:36:47 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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To: Darksheare
"Where's my criminals?"

Heard that a few times. :-)

166 posted on 02/24/2004 3:36:47 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
Only had to give our piratical hoard back once.
167 posted on 02/24/2004 3:37:57 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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To: Darksheare

When the Arabs armies had received new Soviet tanks during the early 1950's, Israeli Sherman tanks were rapidly outclassed, being insufficiently armed for dealing with T-34 and T-85 tanks. This situation led to development of new improved Sherman tanks. The solution were 75mm CN 75-50 French gun with 1000 m/sec.

The prototype turret was sent to Israel in 1955, This gun was fitted in M4A4 and M4A3 tanks, first 50 M-50 tanks had VVSS and in middle 1961 there were 300 M-50 tanks ready with HVSS.

One of the best kept secrets in the Sinai Campaign (1956) was the participation of US made Sherman M-50 tanks on which the French mounted a 75mm gun. When the Sinai Campaign (1956) war broke out, Israel had 180 Shermans ready for battle of total 205 Shermans. M-50s were active combatans in the Sinai Peninsula and in the daring battle on the Roeifa Dam under the command of Moshe Brill. After many tracks and engine modifications by the IDF, they were used in the Six Day War (1967) and Yom Kippur War (1973).

When the Six Day War (1967) war broke out, Israel had 515 Shermans ready for battle of total 520 Shermans, and when the Yom Kippur War (1973) war broke out, Israel had 340 Shermans.

In 1983 Chile acquired a number of M-50s from Israel

168 posted on 02/24/2004 3:43:35 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Darksheare
I got left holding the bag on a "borrowed" Duece and half.

One of those "the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions" things.

Got an Article 15 for it, but only on my record. The CO never imposed the fine, extra duty or "restricted to barracks" part of it. Best he could cover for me.
169 posted on 02/24/2004 3:48:30 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
LOL!
170 posted on 02/24/2004 3:53:43 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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To: Darksheare
LOL!

It kept me from getting my Good Conduct Medal when I mustered out though. There went my "Decorated War Hero" status. :-(

171 posted on 02/24/2004 3:56:21 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
We "plausibly denied" 'bogarting' an M249 that had been left ungaurded at Ft Dix while doing weapons qualification.
I, being the Advance Party guy for my gun section, came upon the 'item' in my wanderings to snoop the area immediately surrounding the latrine.
(Never know when you might need to use the alternate latrine out of sight.)
Came upon a weapon pile, and in the midst of this impressive array of UNGUARDED weapons sat the 'item' complete with bolt.
Remember rule one of weapon piles?
Never leave a weapon without a weapons guard.

Long short of it, I took it upon myself to illustrate the rule, and wandered back to my unit with the 249... where it was in our possession for almst four hours before an extremely NERVOUS Captain wanders up to us and nervously asks if we'd seen a 249 wandering loose in our area.
*chuckle*
The ONLY time we had to give back our piratical take.
173 posted on 02/24/2004 4:05:04 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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To: SAMWolf
I was barred from such recognition, especially since I was 'tainted' by having been well liked by the previous Captain.
(He too was of a Piratical bend.)
174 posted on 02/24/2004 4:13:16 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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To: Matthew Paul
Obviously, I mean Stalin's refusal for American and British bombers to refuel on Soviet airfields, after supplying fighting Warsaw with weaponry.

My dad told me about how heartbreaking it was to see the American and British bombers flying over dropping supplies, that mostly fell into German hands. By the time Stalin allowed the flights the Germans had recaptured most of Warsaw. Also they were forced to fly too high because the Soviets wouldn't supress the German AA guns or provide escorts.

175 posted on 02/24/2004 4:14:27 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Darksheare
We had a well liked LT. lose (Some low-lifes stole it when he was at a different base, Quon Loi, I think) a 3/4 ton truck, he was in deep doo doo, but he was a great guy so a few of us managaed a trip to Quon Loi and "found" the missing truck. The CO didn't seem to care that Bumper markings and serial number seemed newly painted, just glad to "see" thge truck again. We're just glad he didn't check the real serial number plaque.

Funny thing though, shortly after we found the truck it was lost to a mine and had to be scrapped. ;-)
(
176 posted on 02/24/2004 4:21:17 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
Sounds like our acquiring of a Hemmet. (for about two weeks until someone noticed)
Then we had to give it back.
Even though it now said B-44 as it's bumper number.
*chuckle*
About a year after we gave it back, we were asked if we'd wanted our Hemmet back.
The Smoke said no, hung up politely, and THEN thought about it.
He looked over at my brother and I, and asks, "I should've said YES, shouldn't I?"
As far as I know, it's still sitting where we'd last parked it after giving it back, marked with my unit's bumper number and unit ID.
177 posted on 02/24/2004 4:30:35 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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To: Darksheare
About a year after we gave it back, we were asked if we'd wanted our Hemmet back.
The Smoke said no, hung up politely, and THEN thought about it.
He looked over at my brother and I, and asks, "I should've said YES, shouldn't I?"

ROTFL

178 posted on 02/24/2004 4:39:02 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
A little while after that, our unit went to Camp Blanding near Jacksonville Florida to do live fire.
The Smoke walked up to the remaining "Criminals" (4 of us) and says, "Wouldn't it be nice to go down with 10 vehicles and come back with 11? I'm not saying, but I'm just saying, wouldn't it be nice?"
We asked him if he'd like a Hemmet.
He said that he wasn't saying such.
Then he asked about how well the Hemmet rode.

We DID try to get our hands on a Florida Guard Hemmet, especially since to return it someone would've had to DRIVE it back...
(Did ALMOST got my hands on an Avenger system.. was sitting in it when it's owners returned and chuckled over my drooling over the weaponry.)
179 posted on 02/24/2004 4:45:45 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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