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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - M4 Sherman Medium Tank - Feb 24th, 2004
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Posted on 02/24/2004 12:03:03 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: Professional Engineer
O.K. I admit this is my first time on this website and my first time posting anything. I have tried to find the closest area to what I am trying to find. If I am wrong in anyway, please direct me to the correct course of action. In saying all that, I am trying to find out what the words "attached to the Rangers" means.
101 posted on 02/24/2004 11:14:07 AM PST by Trying to understand
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To: Trying to understand
attached to the Rangers

In what context? A tank Platoon attached to the Rangers? An Engineer squad attached to the Rangers? For some missions specialized units or people with a specialized skill would "be attached" to another unit. For instance, A Ranger unit might have need of some armor for a particular mission, the armor would "be attached" until it would no longer be needed (in theory). It is not an organic part of the Ranger unit, but would normally be under the command of the Rangers until "unattached". Hope this helps or someone else may have a better explaination.

102 posted on 02/24/2004 11:29:29 AM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf; Trying to understand
Sam, Could this also be used in the context of a troop? "Joe is atttached to the Rangers"? I know from our talks your "unit" was attached to many bigger groups, i.e., regiments, batallions, etc and kept being moved and attached to others. (forgive my weakness in the vernacular).
103 posted on 02/24/2004 11:42:20 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Trying to understand
By the way, welcome to FR and The FReeper Foxhole. You've probably come to the right place. :-)

Stick around, maybe tell give us a little more detail and you'll more than likely get your answer.
104 posted on 02/24/2004 11:45:46 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
My Company was attached to different units all the time, as needed. I've also heard of individuals being attached to a unit or even a squad. It's usually a temporary thing(though temporary can be a long time sometimes).
105 posted on 02/24/2004 11:51:25 AM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
Company/unit...thanks. I have this stuff written down but not memorized yet. :-)
106 posted on 02/24/2004 11:54:51 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Hello. Not knowing what level your question is coming from and exactly what you need I hope we are helping the best we can. I thought maybe you'd like to know more about just what and who the Rangers are.

Clic on this for a good place to find out.

107 posted on 02/24/2004 12:00:03 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Trying to understand
Thanks for the hospitality. My brother was killed recently and as far as I knew he was a Ranger. After he died, I received phone calls and letters from people he worked with. One call confused me because he implied that my brother was actually part of some type of special forces group that was "planted" or "attached" to this particular Ranger unit. This may be really far out there, but I just thought is was strange and really want to know as much as I can about what my brother might have done.
108 posted on 02/24/2004 12:08:46 PM PST by Trying to understand
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To: Trying to understand
Thanks for the website. My brother had a black hat, does that mean he wasn't a ranger?
109 posted on 02/24/2004 12:17:21 PM PST by Trying to understand
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To: Trying to understand
I'm sorry for your loss and that you don't know more about your brothers service. You might contact the Army and provide them with more data to see if they can help.
110 posted on 02/24/2004 12:18:19 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Trying to understand; SAMWolf
My brother had a black hat, does that mean he wasn't a ranger?It depends on when he served really. Here is some information, not necessarily up to date but the best I can do right now. If you have anyone else in your family you can get more information from you can perhaps contact his unit website or the service directly?

Armor personnel at Fort Knox, Ky., wore the traditional British black beret, while U.S. armored cavalry regiments in Germany wore the black beret with a red and white oval.

Troops of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, N.C., started wearing the maroon beret in 1973, while at Fort Campbell, Ky., the trend exploded, with post personnel wearing red, military police donning light green, and the 101st Airborne Division taking light blue as their color. In Alaska, the 172nd Infantry Brigade began using an olive green beret.

In 1975, the Airborne Rangers got approval from the Army Chief of Staff to use the black beret as their official headgear.

Over the next few years, the whole thing got out of hand, and in 1979 senior Army officials put on the brakes, Bradford said. The leadership allowed the Rangers to keep their black berets and in 1980, agreed to allow airborne troops to continue wearing the maroon version. But all others varieties were declared off-limits.
111 posted on 02/24/2004 12:25:56 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Trying to understand
Unfortunately,

Effective 14 June 2001, the first Army birthday in the new millennium, the black beret will become standard wear in The Army--Active and Reserve Components. Sergeant Major of the Army Tilley will lead the effort to craft implementing guidelines, including indoctrination standards that all Soldiers will meet before they are authorized to wear the beret. Special operations and airborne units will retain their distinctive berets.

I don't know if that order was rescinded. Rangers would have the Ranger patch on their beret though.

112 posted on 02/24/2004 12:29:06 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Trying to understand
Please accept my condolences on the loss of your brother.

If you have any info on the unit he was assigned to someone may be able to help with more information
113 posted on 02/24/2004 12:30:46 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
He was stationed at HAAF from 94-98.
114 posted on 02/24/2004 12:31:03 PM PST by Trying to understand
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To: Trying to understand
IS HAAF, Hunter Army Airfield?
115 posted on 02/24/2004 12:33:47 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Trying to understand
Last question. Thank again for all of your help. I am sure the knowledge in this forum is way beyond my comprehension. Would it be strange for someone who was stationed as an Airborne Ranger 1/75 not to have actually gone to "ranger school"?

116 posted on 02/24/2004 12:34:19 PM PST by Trying to understand
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To: SAMWolf
Yes, sorry HAAF is Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah, GA
118 posted on 02/24/2004 12:36:07 PM PST by Trying to understand
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To: Trying to understand
I'm not an expert, but if his paper work says he was an Airborne Ranger in the 1/75, he probably did go to Ranger School. Do you know if he wore the "Ranger" flash on his uniform?
119 posted on 02/24/2004 12:38:11 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Matthew Paul
The Allied won, Nazis lost and that's the most important!

Good Afternoon, Matt

Yep, it's just that the cost in lives was increased.

120 posted on 02/24/2004 12:40:12 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Trying to understand

If he had this patch (or one like it) on his uniform, he was most probably Ranger qualified. I don't believe attached perosonnel are authorized to wear the Ranger Flash

121 posted on 02/24/2004 12:44:36 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Matthew Paul
Good evening Poland from cold Ohio. LOL. You're right Matt, bottom line the good side won!
122 posted on 02/24/2004 12:47:25 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Yep, that is what he had. I guess a part of me just want to believe there was something more. Thanks
123 posted on 02/24/2004 12:49:43 PM PST by Trying to understand
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To: Trying to understand
The Rangers are a very special breed of soldier, you should be proud that your brother served with them. I might add though that honorable service to our country no matter where or in what capacity is to be appreciated and never forgotten.

This might help you if you know when he might have attended Ranger school. Ranger class photos

125 posted on 02/24/2004 12:54:00 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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There were quite a few.

Michael Wittman and Ernst Barkmann come to mind.

Michael Wittman was the leading panzer ace. He was credited with the destruction of 138 Allied tanks and 132 anti-tank guns in less than two years.

126 posted on 02/24/2004 1:01:27 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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Sam, I just knew you'd beat me to it. LOL.

Soldiers like SS-Oberscharfuhrer Ernst Barkmann, who in an exposed spot with his sole Panther knocked out nine American M4 Shermans before withdrawing, were quick to prove the outstanding qualities of this tank.

"SS-Untersharführer Barkmann was left behind with his Panther on 27 July 1944 to guard two broken down vehicles north of Canisy. During the night of 28/29 July the vast backward moves of the Division completely cut him off from his own forces. He destroyed one tank and started his march towing the other. Partly crossing American lines and partly driving among them at night, he knocked out 14 enemy tanks and reached his own lines on 30 July 1944."


Then of course there is Germany's top ace:

On the 8th of August 1944, Michael Wittmann was killed commanding his beloved Tiger tanks in a typical attack against superior forces near Gaumesnil, Normandy. He died the most decorated and successful German tank ace of the Second World War with 138 tanks and 132 guns credited to him. Most of his successes were achieved on the eastern front, starting with his StuG III, afterwards advancing to his more famous Tiger I.
127 posted on 02/24/2004 1:06:45 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Cool bumper sticker! Too bad you can't use the "other" car to commute with.
128 posted on 02/24/2004 1:08:22 PM PST by PsyOp (There is only one decisive victory: the last. - Clauswitz, Arming the Nation.)
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To: Matthew Paul
I know it's hard. There were some very good soldiers on the other side, too bad the cause they were fighting for was so evil. I can admire their skills, dedication and acheivements and still despise the cause they fought for, even when they were only fighting for "their country" and not necessarily the Nazis
131 posted on 02/24/2004 1:26:40 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: snippy_about_it
I earned the nickname "Speedy 5" for a reason :-)
132 posted on 02/24/2004 1:27:55 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
I earned the nickname "Speedy 5" for a reason :-)

True. I've seen you in action.

btw-You're statement on admiring the enemies skill is very well said.

133 posted on 02/24/2004 1:41:00 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: PsyOp
Who'd stop me!
134 posted on 02/24/2004 1:43:54 PM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)
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To: Professional Engineer
Who'd stop me!


135 posted on 02/24/2004 1:46:36 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Trying to understand
I've been away from the office. Looks like others here have been able to answer your question. Welcome to the Foxhole. C'mon on in, have a root beer.
136 posted on 02/24/2004 1:48:07 PM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)
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To: Matthew Paul
Kelly's Heroes. Great Flic.

"A Sherman can give you an edge"
OddBall
138 posted on 02/24/2004 2:02:29 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: Trying to understand
We thank your brother for his service, and send our condolences to you and your family.


139 posted on 02/24/2004 2:02:40 PM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)
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To: Matthew Paul
Telly Savalas was alive then...

"Who luv's ya, baby?"

140 posted on 02/24/2004 2:05:54 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: SAMWolf
That's what I'm driving.
141 posted on 02/24/2004 2:06:50 PM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)
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M4A1 (76)

142 posted on 02/24/2004 2:20:07 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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To: snippy_about_it
Hi, snippy!


143 posted on 02/24/2004 2:53:43 PM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: SAMWolf
Hi, SAM!

I'm famous now--I made it into a tagline!

144 posted on 02/24/2004 2:59:23 PM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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LOL. You found a picture of me!
145 posted on 02/24/2004 3:09:00 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Samwise
Ruh-roh, you better turn that hat around. One of Sam's pet peeves. LOL. Wait'll he sees it. I think it's cute by the way.
146 posted on 02/24/2004 3:10:41 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Samwise; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer
Prof and I made it into keywords.
Sear for 'Darkshearesfault' and 'Profsfault' as keywords.
Some seriously weird articles or things come up.
147 posted on 02/24/2004 3:12:11 PM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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148 posted on 02/24/2004 3:13:37 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Trying to understand
Please accept our sincere condolences on your loss.

All humanity is of one Author, and is one volume; when one dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated; God employs several translators; some pieces are translated by age, some by sickness, some by war, some by justice; but God’s hand is in every translation, and his hand shall bind up all our scattered leaves again for that library where every book shall lie open to one another.

-- JOHN DONNE (1572–1631)

149 posted on 02/24/2004 3:16:08 PM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: Samwise
I'm famous now--I made it into a tagline!

LOL, now put your cap on right!!!

150 posted on 02/24/2004 3:17:22 PM PST by SAMWolf (You've got to be really scummy to make Clinton look honest. - (Samwise, describing John Kerry))
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